Annoyances

[Johnny English]

On another note, are you guys getting the commercial for 3dcrystal.com or is it just a Canadian thing? It's not so much annoying as it is freaking terrifying.

[ukilledkenny]

That type of general strident dismissal is what is frustrating to a lot of the Cuban community.  There is a giant gulf of ignorance (especially on the left, for some reason which is bizarre because they credit themselves on facts and science) regarding what Castro and his regime have actually done. What Kaepernick said is what Obama has thought too.  People don't realize what Castro actually did.

I mean, Castro hijacked a revolution and said "hey guys, just kidding. No free elections. I'm really a communist" and executed or jailed anyone who opposed him while taking everybody's excrement. Everyone subscribed to communism except him, which he used to live an insanely extragavant lifestyle. He stayed in power for almost 60 years, and there are were world leaders praising the guy.  It's scary how many young people in general subscribe to the "hey guys, maybe things have changed" routine. THey've obviously never met a 80 year old Cuban man.

You already said you had family directly affected by him so I'm sure it actually stirs something up inside you if anyone says anything good about him. I don't think anyone I was exposed to has anywhere near that level of skin in the game and were just looking for the new thing to be over the top angry about.

Speaking of excrement that doesn't make any sense. The right is all about calling out any instance of a liberal whining or crying or getting "triggered" in any way but they fall over.themselves to get offended about excrement that's just as trivial.

[JFIF]

Speaking of excrement that doesn't make any sense. The right is all about calling out any instance of a liberal whining or crying or getting "triggered" in any way but they fall over.themselves to get offended about excrement that's just as trivial.

Yeah, that's pretty true.

But at least for this instance, this is world leaders praising a dictator. There's plenty to be upset about just from a general ignorance/these are people in charge of countries perspective.

[Tommy]

Because Castro and Pierre Trudeau were friends, Justin has known him all of his life. Just as when you or I go there will be plenty of people happy to stomp down the dirt, one hopes that we will have retained some friends willing to remember the good in us.

I don't know enough about the history of Cuba or Castro to have an opinion on the guy personally, but I think the right wing outrage over a simple statement of remembrance for a family friend is - as with most things right now - completely over the top. He isn't going to the funeral and already the mouthpieces are berating him for flipflopping.

So he was family friends with a murderous dictator? That doesn't raise any flags?

[Tommy]

Yeah, that's pretty true.

But at least for this instance, this is world leaders praising a dictator. There's plenty to be upset about just from a general ignorance/these are people in charge of countries perspective.

He also represents everything that's wrong with some people, especially college students, bizarre fascination with socialism and why it doesn't work. It's the antithesis of small government. Communism sounds great when you're a kid from a middle class family taking PoliSci 201 or whatever, but people actually living under it are miserable.

Imagine tweeting the same thing about Enver Hoxha of Albania or Chauchescu of Romania. 

[JFIF]

Because Castro and Pierre Trudeau were friends, Justin has known him all of his life. Just as when you or I go there will be plenty of people happy to stomp down the dirt, one hopes that we will have retained some friends willing to remember the good in us.

I don't know enough about the history of Cuba or Castro to have an opinion on the guy personally, but I think the right wing outrage over a simple statement of remembrance for a family friend is - as with most things right now - completely over the top. He isn't going to the funeral and already the mouthpieces are berating him for flipflopping.

Your diluter makes your assumption even more inaccurate.

The very ignorance you rail against, you're exhibiting here. Regardless of you acknowledged or not doesn't really change the fact you are so wrong about that statement. But sadly, you're not alone on this. You're the victim of the same level of ignorance on the manner that too many have.

[JFIF]

He also represents everything that's wrong with some people, especially college students, bizarre fascination with socialism and why it doesn't work. It's the antithesis of small government. Communism sounds great when you're a kid from a middle class family taking PoliSci 201 or whatever, but people actually living under it are miserable.

Imagine tweeting the same thing about Enver Hoxha of Albania or Chauchescu of Romania. 

Most people who are for it are too young to remember the actual impact of communism and how it's unsustainable system. People are too far removed from its pain and its misery that it inflicts on its people. 

Now, I get why people get upset when people inaccurately call *everything* socialism but Castro is like the poster boy for why Communism doesn't work at all. He uses an entire nation to get him and his underlings rich while everyone stays poor. I don't get how anyone can defend the statement or even try to.

People who try to justify Trudeau's statements are just those obnoxious people who talk in circles and will cling to any ideal they have regardless of any information that's presented to them. 

[Miamipuck]

I will be honest, I don't care freak all about Castro. What I do care about are some of my dear friends family have been directly affected by that queynte. I am glad he's dead but it really had no effect on my life other than friends care very deeply. I suppose it's like a non Jews opinion on Hitler, although many people had family that experienced loss as a result of that war.

Now that I really think about it, Stalin would probably be a better example. People just don't realize what a monster he was, in many respects he was as bad if not worse than that "vulgar little corporal".




EDIT: Sorry that was a direct quote from Chancellor Hindenburg who was known to despise Hitler.

[ukilledkenny]

A lot of younger people do know their history and are aware that communism failed horribly. It's just hard not to think some type of socialist society is going to have to become acceptable when you see the A.I. revolution starting and it's only going to pick up steam. At some point in my life the whole idea that only lazy people don't work is going to have to change or excrement is going to get pretty bad.

[Tommy]

Most people who are for it are too young to remember the actual impact of communism and how it's unsustainable system. People are too far removed from its pain and its misery that it inflicts on its people. 

Now, I get why people get upset when people inaccurately call *everything* socialism but Castro is like the poster boy for why Communism doesn't work at all. He uses an entire nation to get him and his underlings rich while everyone stays poor. I don't get how anyone can defend the statement or even try to.

People who try to justify Trudeau's statements are just those obnoxious people who talk in circles and will cling to any ideal they have regardless of any information that's presented to them.

"But... free health care in Cuba!"

[JFIF]

"But... free health care in Cuba!"

North Korea says they have 100% literary rate. We should totally believe them.

[Andrew Ryan]

A lot of younger people do know their history and are aware that communism failed horribly. It's just hard not to think some type of socialist society is going to have to become acceptable when you see the A.I. revolution starting and it's only going to pick up steam. At some point in my life the whole idea that only lazy people don't work is going to have to change or excrement is going to get pretty bad.

I feel like guaranteed basic income and a reduction in what's considered a full-time work week are basically inevitable at this point.

[Johnny English]

Your diluter makes your assumption even more inaccurate.

The very ignorance you rail against, you're exhibiting here. Regardless of you acknowledged or not doesn't really change the fact you are so wrong about that statement. But sadly, you're not alone on this. You're the victim of the same level of ignorance on the manner that too many have.

I'm not quite sure how you took "I don't know enough about the history of Cuba or Castro to have an opinion on the guy" as anything other than a tacit statement of my acknowledged ignorance, so I assume that you were just choosing to take it as an opportunity to tell me how ignorant I am. Which is fine, if somewhat redundant, but you do you.

What I was I think very clearly talking about was Justin Trudeau, about whom I do know a little bit. It's entirely fine to disagree with him, to think that his statement was incorrect, ill advised or inappropriate. You might very well be right, I don't know. I was talking about why he expressed the view he did, because Tommy appeared to be unaware, not commenting on the views themselves.

[Johnny English]

So he was family friends with a murderous dictator? That doesn't raise any flags?

Given you've spent the last year pumping the tires of a Putin fanboy, this is a funny post.

[Badger]

Number of people I know praising Castro: 0

Number of people I know dancing on his grave: ~10

Number of the above group who have a legit beef with Castro: 0.5 (you only count as half, JFIF)