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Re: Jets new HC search
« Reply #765 on: December 27, 2020, 10:02:47 AM »
He wants to come back..and he's an elite DC

He just needs to make sure he doesn't die.

He is definitely not an elite DC in the modern NFL. Too resistant to changes. Rams defense has improved markedly this year after he left.

If the Jets wanna bring him in to help along a young HC with no experience it's probably worth the tradeoff, but by no means is Wade still elite at the defensive coordination part.

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Re: Jets new HC search
« Reply #766 on: December 27, 2020, 10:11:08 AM »
He is definitely not an elite DC in the modern NFL. Too resistant to changes. Rams defense has improved markedly this year after he left.

If the Jets wanna bring him in to help along a young HC with no experience it's probably worth the tradeoff, but by no means is Wade still elite at the defensive coordination part.
Wade's defenses have been great everywhere he's been.

I never suggested the jets hire him

I brought him up because age is just a number when it comes to coaching.

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Re: Jets new HC search
« Reply #767 on: December 27, 2020, 10:26:57 AM »
You’re telling me you expect Marvin Lewis to be a dc for whatever team hires him this offseason in 4 years? And Lovie Smith to be a position coach for that team 4 years from now?

I’ll admit Marvin and Lovies days as a HC may be over, but Whichever one would be Martindales position coach (can’t both be DCs) isn’t still in that role in 4 years.

And Andy Reid is a HC making far more money than a DC or position coach, and he has the best QB in the league which will make anyone want to stay in the game a lot longer than they “need” to. As for Wade Phillips there aren’t that many guys who coach that long. Will Lewis and Lovie be the exception? I suppose it’s possible
I have a suggestion...how about we worry about turning the franchise around first, then worry about which coaches will stay or go. How does that sound?
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Re: Jets new HC search
« Reply #768 on: December 27, 2020, 10:49:38 AM »
CEO of a football team route

If you're going for a CEO type

Can we come up with a better comparison than this? Gase is in more of a "CEO type" role than most HCs in the league in that he answers directly to the shareholders, and I think we're all mostly in agreement that this is a poor arrangement. There are multiple reasons why a football head coach's role is really nothing like a CEO's. The GM is (or should be) far more comparable to a CEO.
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Re: Jets new HC search
« Reply #769 on: December 27, 2020, 11:04:20 AM »
If you're going for a CEO type, why does this matter so much?  Also, Wink's defenses in Baltimore have been every bit as good as Saleh's in San Francisco.
Alot of coaches have come from the Baltimore tree with little success.  Id rather take Saleh and sf offensive staff member to be our o coordinator than wink and whomever

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Re: Jets new HC search
« Reply #770 on: December 27, 2020, 11:24:19 AM »
Can we come up with a better comparison than this?

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Re: Jets new HC search
« Reply #771 on: December 27, 2020, 02:38:44 PM »
Can we come up with a better comparison than this? Gase is in more of a "CEO type" role than most HCs in the league in that he answers directly to the shareholders, and I think we're all mostly in agreement that this is a poor arrangement. There are multiple reasons why a football head coach's role is really nothing like a CEO's. The GM is (or should be) far more comparable to a CEO.

Gase is absolutley not the ceo type, he’s like a really shitty QB coach that doesn’t know how to run a fully functioning team
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Re: Jets new HC search
« Reply #772 on: December 27, 2020, 02:52:08 PM »
Gase is absolutley not the ceo type, he’s like a really shitty QB coach that doesn’t know how to run a fully functioning team
Yeah, I agree with this. Gase is the exact opposite of a CEO type. He's a guy who wants to run his offense, have a defensive guy run the defense, and not really have a clue how to put the whole thing together.

That said, I think "CEO type" is basically a synonym for a veteran coach in most cases. Most young coaches don't have the experience to know how to run the whole show. And I think coaches become more of the "CEO type" as they get older - it's much easier for a 6th-year coach to run the whole show than it is for a rookie head coach.

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« Reply #773 on: December 27, 2020, 02:57:22 PM »
Gase is absolutley not the ceo type, he’s like a really shitty QB coach that doesn’t know how to run a fully functioning team

Now read what I wrote.
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Re: Jets new HC search
« Reply #774 on: December 27, 2020, 02:59:27 PM »
Now read what I wrote.

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Re: Jets new HC search
« Reply #775 on: December 27, 2020, 03:02:36 PM »
This is becoming Kafkaesque

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Re: Jets new HC search
« Reply #776 on: December 27, 2020, 03:04:26 PM »
This is becoming Kafkaesque

Mike Kafka hire incoming
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Re: Jets new HC search
« Reply #777 on: December 27, 2020, 03:07:26 PM »
I wonder how many coaches get fired after 3-game winning streaks.

(Gase still would be fired).

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Re: Jets new HC search
« Reply #778 on: December 27, 2020, 05:55:32 PM »
Condoleeza Rice for CEO HC
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Re: Jets new HC search
« Reply #779 on: December 27, 2020, 06:10:55 PM »
Condoleeza Rice for CEO HC
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