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Re: Wilk Watch
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2015, 02:56:28 PM »
dcm mode engaged

trade Mo for Andrew Luck straight up.






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Re: Wilk Watch
« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2015, 03:04:16 PM »
Quote from: Laxin on May 22, 2015, 02:43:16 PM
I dont think anything we could get back for Mo will ever equate in terms of value.

My line of thinking is- you do whatever it takes to retain your own talent. Its worked for GB for the last 2 decades. I also just don't see Wilkerson as the extremely greedy type, like a Revis, but who knows. Id like to think a reasonable deals for both sides can be met.

I always looked at the Packers as a team that was replacing guys before they NEEDED to replace them. Like getting Rodgers years before they were thinking about moving on from Favre. Or this past year they had another WR waiting in the wings if Cobb didn't want to sign the contract they were willing to give him. I think they have done that here with Wilk and Williams. Mo is gonna have to decide if he wants to wait and go for every possible dollar down the line or sign a deal that is still very lucrative right away.
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Re: Wilk Watch
« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2015, 03:05:12 PM »
Quote from: Johnny English on May 22, 2015, 02:54:50 PM
No-one is going to trade a "franchise QB". They aren't a thing of which there are spares.
No a team won't trade a franchise QB. But they will trade draft picks for him.

And being that he is a very valuable player it's only possible that we could use the pick to draft one.

Or to trade up and draft one
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Re: Wilk Watch
« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2015, 07:02:41 PM »
Quote from: dcm1602 on May 22, 2015, 02:53:20 PM
If Wilkerson trade gets us a franchise QB (or the picks to get one)  I'd say it does

And if we trade him, I imagine it does

Just look at the success of 1st round picks... Even if we get a 1st and a 2nd, the likelihood that either pick amounts to a player of Mo's caliber is very unlikely IMO. He's a top 3 player at his position.


To everyone- what is a deal that would be okay in your eyes?

Watt got 100M over 6 years (16.7 per).
Calais Campbell got 55M over 5 years (11 per).

Id think Mo will get something in the middle, something like 80M over 6 years (~13.5 per) and I'd be okay with that.
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Re: Wilk Watch
« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2015, 07:22:36 PM »
I'd like to get mo for 13 per, but preferably with the last two years at astronomical #s he wouldn't ever see (restructured) for when revis is restructured or comes off the books.

It's only really possible given we don't have to pay a QB.
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Re: Wilk Watch
« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2015, 10:42:23 PM »
I dont know if 13m/yr avg is realistic for Wilkerson

Looking at the top contracts 13m would be about par except the guys whose deals are like that got those contracts about 2-3 years ago

I have to imagine him averaging between 14-15 million a year with over 35 million guarenteed is the starting point

6 years 84 million with 40 million guaranteed is probably our best case scenario. I would think hes probably thinking for something closer to 5 years 75 million with at least 45 million guaranteed. or something comparable at 6 years 
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Re: Wilk Watch
« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2015, 10:50:23 PM »
It's like you literally didn't bother reading the article at all.
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Re: Wilk Watch
« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2015, 05:57:46 AM »
Quote from: Johnny English on May 22, 2015, 10:50:23 PM
It's like you literally didn't bother reading the article at all.
That's no fun, let's just make up numbers!
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Re: Wilk Watch
« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2015, 09:59:06 AM »
 Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 14m14 minutes ago

#Saints & Cam Jordan reached a 5-year extension, source said, worth $55M. $5M more in incentives. $33.8M guaranteed (@MikeGarafolo was 1st)

Muhammad Wilkerson ‏@mowilkerson 8m8 minutes ago

Yup I see how this works




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Re: Wilk Watch
« Reply #39 on: June 02, 2015, 11:00:07 AM »
Quote from: MBGreen on June 02, 2015, 09:59:06 AM
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 14m14 minutes ago

#Saints & Cam Jordan reached a 5-year extension, source said, worth $55M. $5M more in incentives. $33.8M guaranteed (@MikeGarafolo was 1st)

Muhammad Wilkerson ‏@mowilkerson 8m8 minutes ago

Yup I see how this works




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Unless he's willing to take that same contract he should shut his mouth
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Re: Wilk Watch
« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2015, 11:29:44 AM »
Quote from: Ornstein on May 19, 2015, 04:23:58 PM
I doubt Mo would have signed before Watt.

They were talking about Mo and getting a new deal done before the season last year. He would have signed a deal before Watt if Idiot-zik pursued one. But he didn't, instead looking to save the money.
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Re: Wilk Watch
« Reply #41 on: June 02, 2015, 11:30:21 AM »
Quote from: Murrell2878 on June 02, 2015, 11:29:44 AM
Idiot-zik

Leave this gayness at TGG please sir
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Re: Wilk Watch
« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2015, 11:31:23 AM »
Quote from: Derek Smalls on May 19, 2015, 05:24:01 PM
No one has any idea how the negotiations are. Watt and Suh reset the market a bit, which will hurt us in negotiations, but who is to say that Wilkerson was going to take a below market value deal before anyway?

If the Jets had made an offer we could have had him cheaper than what he will get today because of what you said about Watt and Suh resetting the market. Wilk would have gotten a top end original market deal. Now we will have to pay more.
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Re: Wilk Watch
« Reply #43 on: June 02, 2015, 11:33:42 AM »
Quote from: Heismanberg on June 02, 2015, 11:30:21 AM
Leave this gayness at TGG please sir

Okay.

How about

Id-isafuckinguselessfaggottoolwhoshoulddieinafuckingfireimmediately-zik
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Re: Wilk Watch
« Reply #44 on: June 02, 2015, 11:40:32 AM »
Quote from: Murrell2878 on June 02, 2015, 11:31:23 AM
If the Jets had made an offer we could have had him cheaper than what he will get today because of what you said about Watt and Suh resetting the market. Wilk would have gotten a top end original market deal. Now we will have to pay more.
We also would have paid him that new, higher salary last year and this year instead of getting him on cheap for 2 years.
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