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Update: Dunbar joining Rex in Buffalo
« on: January 11, 2015, 08:00:50 AM »
Not sure if true. 

Ron Pickett:

Dunbar was asked about following Rex or hoping to stay on with Jets new HC his response? “I love my NY Jets”
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Re: Dunbar staying?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2015, 08:02:34 AM »
I asked him where he heard that: 

has said it a few times and also has a daughter who’s a Jr in HS. Wants to stay

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Re: Dunbar staying?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2015, 08:05:59 AM »
Hopefully the new HC will keep Dunbar, that D-Line is very loyal to him.

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Re: Dunbar staying?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2015, 08:13:56 AM »
Any coach is going to come in a pretty tell Dunbar, "That?  Yeah, keep doing that," so I'm not worried about it.

While others might think the opposite, I believe it actually works better if a guy like Quinn is brought in because his experience as a DL coach and work with a fundamentally hybrid defense like Seattle's would give him better insight into meshing the systems together.  I could see Dunbar's influence over the players making a new DC uncomfortable in terms of his authority without an HC to calm it all down.

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Re: Dunbar staying?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2015, 08:21:10 AM »
Any coach is going to come in a pretty tell Dunbar, "That?  Yeah, keep doing that," so I'm not worried about it.

While others might think the opposite, I believe it actually works better if a guy like Quinn is brought in because his experience as a DL coach and work with a fundamentally hybrid defense like Seattle's would give him better insight into meshing the systems together.  I could see Dunbar's influence over the players making a new DC uncomfortable in terms of his authority without an HC to calm it all down.
Well the nice thing about Dunbar is he has experience with a 4-3 from Minnesota

And a comfort level and knowledge base with these guys

So he might be an ideal candidate to help transition to a 4-3

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Re: Dunbar staying?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2015, 08:37:54 AM »
I hope we do keep him, but it probably wouldn't be to hard to follow Rex and coach up the Bills DL. They are pretty terrorizing as well.
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Re: Dunbar staying?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2015, 08:42:07 AM »
Well the nice thing about Dunbar is he has experience with a 4-3 from Minnesota

And a comfort level and knowledge base with these guys

So he might be an ideal candidate to help transition to a 4-3

An attacking 34 like Rex ran will mean that that a 43 switch won't be much different for these guys.  Sheldon played a lot in the interior gaps and Muhammad worked over or outside tackles quite often in pass situations.  If anything, its going to make things easier for them all, specifically Quittin the Nickelback.

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Re: Dunbar staying?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2015, 11:05:25 AM »
Well the nice thing about Dunbar is he has experience with a 4-3 from Minnesota

And a comfort level and knowledge base with these guys

So he might be an ideal candidate to help transition to a 4-3

why do you keep suggesting we are switching to the 4-3? if we hire Quinn, Seattle plays a hybrid 3-4
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Re: Dunbar staying?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2015, 11:06:43 AM »
why do you keep suggesting we are switching to the 4-3? if we hire Quinn, Seattle plays a hybrid 3-4
I believe it is mostly a 4-3, but they do play some 3-4 too.  Probably semantics.

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Re: Dunbar staying?
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2015, 11:10:57 AM »
why do you keep suggesting we are switching to the 4-3? if we hire Quinn, Seattle plays a hybrid 3-4

Our personnel fits a 4-3 better (especially w Harris gone and Coples still here)

Plus more teams run a 4-3 than 3-4, so its probability

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Re: Dunbar staying?
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2015, 11:29:47 AM »
Our personnel fits a 4-3 better (especially w Harris gone and Coples still here)

Plus more teams run a 4-3 than 3-4, so its probability



how does our personnel fit?
we lack a true sideline to sideline MLB (Vilma), and our DL are mostly interior rushers as opposed to outside pass rushing DEs (Abraham and Ellis)
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Re: Dunbar staying?
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2015, 11:32:23 AM »
how does our personnel fit?
we lack a true sideline to sideline MLB (Vilma), and our DL are mostly interior rushers as opposed to outside pass rushing DEs (Abraham and Ellis)
It doesn't fit.

Our personnel isn't tailor-made for either the 3-4 or the 4-3. In a 4-3 scheme, Sheldon, Wilkerson, and Harrison all are best fits inside, and some have thought Coples is best inside, too. In a 3-4 scheme, Richardson and Coples are tweeners, especially Coples. They're all good enough players where they could make it work in either scheme, but the personnel is best used in multiple fronts to take advantage of their versatility.

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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2015, 11:32:38 AM »
the one argument I can come up with for the 3-4 is that our Linebackers suck and our DL is excellent. so you take a LB off the field and substitute a DL.

I don't think that that means our players skill sets just automatically transfer to the 4-3
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Re: Dunbar staying?
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2015, 11:34:14 AM »
how does our personnel fit?
we lack a true sideline to sideline MLB (Vilma), and our DL are mostly interior rushers as opposed to outside pass rushing DEs (Abraham and Ellis)

We lack a 3-4 mlb to fill Harris shoes anyway. So its a need either way

Many though Davis, Richardson, and Coples were all better fits for a 4-3 coming out of college

Likely easier to just transition to a 4-3

And with our personnel we could easily be a hybrid anyway

I think Coples being a poor fit for a 3-4 and losing Harris are the biggest factors moving us to a 4-3 anyway

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Re: Dunbar staying?
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2015, 12:05:25 PM »
Losing Harris is addition by subtraction, you think it's any coincidence this defense has been killed by tight ends and the short pass religiously for six years now? He can't cover with a gun to his head and it kills the defense.
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