The Dean/Cine Hype Train

[Johnny English]

That's my point. An off ball linebacker does not have enough of an impact on a team's success to draft top 10

If you're looking at splash plays, maybe. If you're looking at their ability to influence a defensive scheme and performance, I disagree. A middle linebacker plays a role in every single snap.

[MBGreen]

I'm starting to think insanity drove Demario Davis to the airport when he decided to sign with the Saints.

[insanity]

If you're looking at splash plays, maybe.

I am.  Players that are game changers

A middle linebacker plays a role in every single snap.

Once more and then I'm done with this.

-  I'm not saying a good linebacker isn't important I'm saying you don't need a 1st round Will let alone a top 5 WILL to be successful in this league. 
-  off ball linebackers are easier to find in the later rounds
-  Saleh has proven to be able to develop linebackers
- top pass rushers, cb, and olineman are the most important positions in the league, are in the shortest supply, and the top ones are usually high draft picks
-  we've had good linebackers on this team and our success doesn't rely on them being healthy it relies on being able to rush the passer something we haven't been able to do since Jon Abraham left
-  finally, if you told me Nakobe Dean was a lock down coverage linebacker who can stop tightends from running roughshod on us I would be all in for Dean top 10.  But he's not going to be able to do that because he's 6 flat and Mike gesicki, Mark Andrew's, tj hock, and all the other tightends we face next year are 6'5+

If I'm joe Douglas I'm planning to never pick in the top 10 again.  I'm trading up to get a blue chip pass rusher or I'm giving zach all the help he needs to be successful by surrounding him with probowl lineman and weapons because that is the key to our success. 

[Heismanberg]

https://twitter.com/jammer2233/status/1480968568699342850?s=21

Just not an impact player

[insanity]

https://twitter.com/jammer2233/status/1480968568699342850?s=21

Just not an impact player

Top 5 pick hand clapping right there

[MBGreen]

Top 5 pick hand clapping right there

I saw some leadership...and some accountability being doled out there.

[insanity]

I saw some leadership...and some accountability being doled out there.

2nd round player couldn't clap like that

[Heismanberg]

An All-American, national champion linebacker...let's just pass on him because you don't understand how run fits work

[insanity]

You can't really say Devin White doesn't count because the success is down to other players and then say that Roquan Smith doesn't count because the Bears are crap.

Defense is a team game.

Since you bring up Devin White and Roquan Smith

Say you're playing in the superbowl and you're told you are required to sit a probowl player

If you're the bucs are you sitting Shaq Barrett or Devin White?
If you're the bears are you sitting Khalil Mack or Roquan Smith?

The answer is clear and it proves the value of the position.

[Heismanberg]

If you're the bucs are you sitting Shaq Barrett or Devin White?

Shaq Barrett wasn't drafted. 

[MBGreen]

Since you bring up Devin White and Roquan Smith

Say you're playing in the superbowl and you're told you are required to sit a probowl player

If you're the bucs are you sitting Shaq Barrett or Devin White?
If you're the bears are you sitting Khalil Mack or Roquan Smith?

The answer is clear and it proves the value of the position.

what the freak is this?

Roquan  is most likely relaying the playcalls as the quarterback of the Bears D. 

I guarantee you Khalil Mack will voluntarily sit in favor of letting Roquan play. 

[Heismanberg]

There were several plays against Clemson and Michigan where Dean knew the play before the snap and got his guys lined up to make an impact play (or he ended up making the play himself). 

[insanity]

An All-American, national champion linebacker...let's just pass on him because you don't understand how run fits work

Reuben Foster - All American, National Champion linebacker
Should have drafted him top 5

"Alex, I'll take I don't give a excrement he's a linebacker for $500"

[MBGreen]

Reuben Foster - All American, National Champion linebacker
Should have drafted him top 5

"Alex, I'll take I don't give a excrement he's a linebacker for $500"

Foster is also a felon. Twice over.


Maybe you should stop?

[Heismanberg]

Reuben Foster - All American, National Champion linebacker
Should have drafted him top 5

"Alex, I'll take I don't give a excrement he's a linebacker for $500"

What an argument you're making here.

Foster was a 3-4 inside backer at Alabama.  He did not have Mike responsibilities and he got into serious legal trouble that derailed his career before it could take off.