2022 NFL Draft Prospect Discussion

[Heismanberg]

Joyner wasn't a band-aid, he was hand picked to start. Same with Jarrad Davis.

then why did they only sign one year deals?  Short term, stopgaps

Joyner was going to be our third safety behind Maye and Davis

[MBGreen]

then why did they only sign one year deals?  Short term, stopgaps

Joyner was going to be our third safety behind Maye and Davis

I thought Joyner was hand-picked by Saleh.

ok, i'll buy the short term/stop gap theory....you want to bring D.Hunter here for a 4th round pick and on a 1 yr prove it deal, sign me up.


Do i want to trade a 2nd rounder and give him a Carl Lawson type contract....not really.


if we're gonna trade premium picks away, i'd rather bring in JC Jackson....or C.Ridley (if his head is on straight).

[Derek Smalls]

Joyner wasn't a band-aid, he was hand picked to start. Same with Jarrad Davis.

Vinny Curry is the only role-player rotational guy they took a swing on.

I'm not sure what your solution is here. You're supposed to roll the dice on talent. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Anyone can get hurt. Usually injury-prone guys have that baked into their contracts.

And outside of Lawson and Corey Davis, everyone else was a stopgap/bandaid solution. Joyner and Davis were 1-year deals to be bandaids until we found more permanent solutions.

Sheldon Rankins worked out in a similar deal (and we gave him 2 years). Joyner and Curry and Jarrad Davis did not.

[MBGreen]

I'm not sure what your solution is here. You're supposed to roll the dice on talent. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Anyone can get hurt. Usually injury-prone guys have that baked into their contracts.

And outside of Lawson and Corey Davis, everyone else was a stopgap/bandaid solution. Joyner and Davis were 1-year deals to be bandaids until we found more permanent solutions.

Sheldon Rankins worked out in a similar deal (and we gave him 2 years). Joyner and Curry and Jarrad Davis did not.

My solution is to trade draft capital for elite vets that aren't perennial injured.  I get what Hunter was 2 years ago....but he broke down his last two seasons

[Derek Smalls]

My solution is to trade draft capital for elite vets that aren't perennial injured.  I get what Hunter was 2 years ago....but he broke down his last two seasons

Elite veterans that aren't perennially injured don't get traded. And if they do, they get traded for a king's ransom.

Hunter is coming off two major injuries and wants to get paid. That combination should dent his trade value. If that is enough to scare you off, that's fine, but you're not finding "elite vets that aren't perennially injured" in the trade market unless you want to give up multiple 1sts.

[MBGreen]

Elite veterans that aren't perennially injured don't get traded. And if they do, they get traded for a king's ransom.

Hunter is coming off two major injuries and wants to get paid. That combination should dent his trade value. If that is enough to scare you off, that's fine, but you're not finding "elite vets that aren't perennially injured" in the trade market unless you want to give up multiple 1sts.

And that brings me back to my original opinion of passing on Hunter.  Minny is going to want premium picks for him....they can eat excrement instead.

[Derek Smalls]

And that brings me back to my original opinion of passing on Hunter.  Minny is going to want premium picks for him....they can eat excrement instead.

They will want them. I don't know if they will still get them. I would give up a 3rd for Hunter though. Even this year in 7 games, he still had as many sacks as anyone on the Jets (6). I definitely wouldn't give up 4 or 10, but I would kick the tires on all these veteran pass rushers that could be on the trade market (Hunter, Mack, etc).

[bojanglesman]

One thing is for sure.  Whoever we sign will have an injury history by the end of 2022.

[Libero_2]

If we are trading legitimate draft capital (top 3 round picks) I want freaking legitimate weapons. I heard Seattle and DK Metcalf are having issues. If that’s real I’d gladly send them 10 back for him.

Calvin Ridley is a good player tough situation. It’s a gamble for a guy who needs to rehab his mind to the point football can be his sole focus. Can he do that in the bright lights of New York? That’s usually the place that breaks people mentally not builds them back up.

What legitimate TEs might be available for trade? Ertz is off the market as is the Philly TE who had a career day against us. Schultes I suppose could be a tag and trade guy. But I suspect it’s more likely they try and keep him and deal Cooper as he’s getting older and costs zillions. He’s also a guy I’d trade some mid round capital for. Lots of talent, getting a bit older, being over paid for recent production and frankly we are giving Dallas cap relief and that’s a big reason why he might be cheaper on the trade market than some other guys

[SixFeetDeep]

On 12/5 I took Kayvon to be the #1 pick at -110 odds.

Same book now was Hutchinson to be the #1 pick at -150 odds and Kayvon at +200

12/5
Kayvon -110

12/17
Hutch -150
Kayvon +200

1/25
Kayvon +165
Hutch +190

[insanity]

12/5
Kayvon -110

12/17
Hutch -150
Kayvon +200

1/25
Kayvon +165
Hutch +190

Is kayvon still the best odds or are you excluding others

[SixFeetDeep]

Is kayvon still the best odds or are you excluding others

1/26

Kayvon +165
Hutch +185
Neal +210
Ekwonu +475
Pickett +3300

Bet is for #1 pick - Only players currently listed are above. BetOnline.com

[Johnny English]

At those odds Pickett has to be worth a couple of bucks, it's far from unheard of for some QB needy team to fall in love with a guy during the run up and trade up to make sure they get him ahead of anyone else trading up.

[MBGreen]

At those odds Pickett has to be worth a couple of bucks, it's far from unheard of for some QB needy team to fall in love with a guy during the run up and trade up to make sure they get him ahead of anyone else trading up.

Nobody is trading up to 1 for Pickett....or any QB in this draft.

[Johnny English]

Nobody is trading up to 1 for Pickett....or any QB in this draft.

Probably not, but like I said - at those odds it's worth a couple of bucks. Lots of needy teams this year and pickings are slim.