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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #945 on: March 24, 2022, 07:21:40 PM »
Travon Walker vs. Evan Neal was a matchup of elite

They both got the best of each other several times.
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« Reply #946 on: March 24, 2022, 08:06:01 PM »
Travon Walker vs. Evan Neal was a matchup of elite

They both got the best of each other several times.
It was heavily slanted towards Neal. Walker had a couple plays where his strong arm pushed Neal back, but even of them, he really only had one true pocket disruption. The majority was Neal stone walling him while Walker tried to do what he always does: punch, use length, push guy back, hope QB runs by.

How does Walker not have the traits to be a great pass rusher?  He’s a freak athlete.
Freak athletes don’t automatically make great pass rushers. He can run 4.5 and jump all day, but the man has the same repertoire of passrush moves as the Juggernaut. Honestly, his 10 yd split coming in at a solid 1.62, about halfway down the list of Edge guys, is just as telling as the 4.5, because for a fast guy, I’ve never once said “wow, how great off the snap!”
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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #947 on: March 24, 2022, 08:24:03 PM »
It’s like 12 or 13 plays and I bet Walker is playing on most of them.

It was very evenly matched.

Walker gave Neal trouble.  Neal nearly broke Walker’s wrist when he tried to long arm him.

It’s one of the better recent OL/DL matchups.
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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #948 on: March 24, 2022, 10:03:55 PM »
From my perspective, it was what all Walker watchers should be used to: a strong dude who just doesn’t have the ability to capitalize on it.

For anyone that wants to watch and decide for themselves:

https://youtu.be/-sPCbt_BUio

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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #949 on: March 24, 2022, 10:33:24 PM »
Seems to me like you have an issue with what he’s being asked to do in that scheme more than anything.

Smart doesn’t allow his linemen to do anything off script.  They contain, set the edge, or stunt inside.  They want to win with power.

Not really sure what kind of pressure anyone can expect against quick game and RPO, especially when the ends are reading run.
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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #950 on: March 25, 2022, 06:29:40 AM »
I get the role he’s playing, but that’s what we have to evaluate. Absolutely, it’s hard to get pressure with strength on quick pass game, so why value a guy highly who can only do that? If he was totally dominant in that role, it’s one thing, but you can see how on his inside stunts that there lacks efficiency and how Neal flat controls him on a good number of snaps. I get that OL wins the majority of time, but he doesn’t have even one play where it’s like “oh man, there’s the #1 pick!”

It would basically be projecting a whole skillset that he’s never shown if you think he’s the #1 guy.

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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #951 on: March 25, 2022, 06:48:40 AM »
Vote for the Jets pick at 10 in the Reddit draft community mock

https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/comments/tnihcc/with_the_tenth_pick_in_the_2022_rnfl_draft

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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #952 on: March 25, 2022, 07:21:35 AM »
I get the role he’s playing, but that’s what we have to evaluate. Absolutely, it’s hard to get pressure with strength on quick pass game, so why value a guy highly who can only do that? If he was totally dominant in that role, it’s one thing, but you can see how on his inside stunts that there lacks efficiency and how Neal flat controls him on a good number of snaps. I get that OL wins the majority of time, but he doesn’t have even one play where it’s like “oh man, there’s the #1 pick!”

It would basically be projecting a whole skillset that he’s never shown if you think he’s the #1 guy.
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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #953 on: March 25, 2022, 07:23:31 AM »
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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #954 on: March 25, 2022, 08:17:53 AM »
Which combo would you rather have:

Jermaine Johnson
Roger McCreary

    OR

Sauce Gardner
Boye Mafe


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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #955 on: March 25, 2022, 08:33:20 AM »
Which combo would you rather have:

Jermaine Johnson
Roger McCreary

    OR

Sauce Gardner
Boye Mafe
One from column A & one from column B (JJ, Sauce)

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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #956 on: March 25, 2022, 08:34:30 AM »
One from column A & one from column B (JJ, Sauce)

LOL, me too, but that won't be an option.  Gotta take one of those pairs

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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #957 on: March 25, 2022, 08:48:49 AM »
Which combo would you rather have:

Jermaine Johnson
Roger McCreary

    OR

Sauce Gardner
Boye Mafe



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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #958 on: March 25, 2022, 09:13:49 AM »
If he was totally dominant in that role

He's going up against an elite tackle and gives him trouble several times.  No one tossed Neal around like Walker did. 

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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #959 on: March 25, 2022, 09:15:38 AM »
he doesn’t have even one play where it’s like “oh man, there’s the #1 pick!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GktbYwAV0oc

elite power and he shows it in every game, even against Neal
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