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Re: Assorted 2021 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #480 on: April 16, 2021, 04:20:38 PM »
2. Zach Wilson - QB - BYU
23. Greg Newsome II - CB - Northwestern
34. Jaelan Phillips - EDGE - Miami (FL)

All of the OL went crazy high again.  AVT went 11 to the Giants.  Humphrey, Dickerson, and Darrisaw were all gone by 34.  Phillips was BPA.

Traded 66 to Dallas for Michael Gallup

My Giants buddy thinks their FO is in love with Jaelan Phillips and Greg Rousseau at 11.
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Re: Assorted 2021 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #481 on: April 19, 2021, 08:56:34 AM »
TDN, not happy with the way OL fell.  Put Mayfield at gord.

2. Zach Wilson, QB

23. Kwity Paye, EDGE

34. Kadarius Toney, WR

66. Jalen Mayfield, OL

86. Kenneth Gainwell, RB

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« Reply #482 on: April 19, 2021, 09:09:50 AM »
Not sure how I feel about Paye over Ojulari. 

Paye is almost three years older than Ojulari. 

Gainwell is very good.
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Re: Assorted 2021 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #483 on: April 19, 2021, 09:16:01 AM »
Another one, think I did better this time.

2. Zach Wilson QB
23. Jaelan Phillips EDGE
34. Creed Humphrey GORD
66. Jabril Cox LB
86. Trill Williams CB

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Re: Assorted 2021 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #484 on: April 19, 2021, 09:16:39 AM »
I'm interested to see if Joe Douglas spends any premium picks on interior linemen

It's completely against his strategy of drafting premium positions with those picks
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Re: Assorted 2021 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #485 on: April 19, 2021, 09:19:33 AM »
I'm interested to see if Joe Douglas spends any premium picks on interior linemen

It's completely against his strategy of drafting premium positions with those picks

In doing a few of these mock simulators, that's the issue I've seen.  No guards seem to be a good value when it's the Jets' time on the clock, even in the 3rd round.  Just a weird quirk.  The best option might be moving up for Jenkins or AVT in the mid-late teens.

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« Reply #486 on: April 19, 2021, 09:23:57 AM »
The best option might be moving up for Jenkins or AVT in the mid-late teens.

Both are worth moving up for because they can play tackle and guard
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Re: Assorted 2021 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #487 on: April 19, 2021, 11:00:32 AM »
I'm interested to see if Joe Douglas spends any premium picks on interior linemen

It's completely against his strategy of drafting premium positions with those picks
He's been here one draft. I'm not sure we completely know his draft strategy.

The guy also drafted a safety with his only other day 2 pick, and he drafted a punter.

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« Reply #488 on: April 19, 2021, 11:07:16 AM »
He's been here one draft. I'm not sure we completely know his draft strategy.

The guy also drafted a safety with his only other day 2 pick, and he drafted a punter.

What does using a late rounder on a punter have to do with how he spends his premium picks? 
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« Reply #489 on: April 19, 2021, 11:40:30 AM »
What does using a late rounder on a punter have to do with how he spends his premium picks? 

It doesn't necessarily, but you're making a judgment off literally 2 draft picks.

You could also argue that Douglas spends premium picks on positions of need, since OT and WR were our 2 biggest needs last season.

Douglas hasn't been here long enough for us to say anything definitive about his draft philosophy other than he likes making trades.

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« Reply #490 on: April 19, 2021, 11:41:40 AM »
It doesn't necessarily, but you're making a judgment off literally 2 draft picks.

No, I'm not.

There's tons of content out there about how Douglas values using high picks on premium positions.  Cimini hinted at us eying edge rushers over interior lineman at 23 because of that philosophy.

From 1996 to 2018, Ozzie Newsome drafted two interior linemen with first round picks:  Haloti Ngata (NT) and Ben Grubbs (OG). 
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« Reply #491 on: April 19, 2021, 11:45:55 AM »
Ben Grubbs (first round) and Chris Chester (second round) are the only two IOLs Newsome spent high picks on. 

They got Marshal Yanda in the third round of the same draft as Grubbs. 

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I used the same argument for Rex.  If you're such a damn good evaluator of defensive line, then why use high picks on it?  JD played OL.  He scouts OL.  Go find some value. 
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Re: Assorted 2021 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #492 on: April 19, 2021, 12:48:40 PM »

I used the same argument for Rex.  If you're such a damn good evaluator of defensive line, then why use high picks on it?  JD played OL.  He scouts OL.  Go found some value.
Thats a good point. 

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Re: Assorted 2021 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #493 on: April 19, 2021, 01:28:28 PM »
I used the same argument for Rex.  If you're such a damn good evaluator of defensive line, then why use high picks on it?  JD played OL.  He scouts OL.  Go find some value. 
I agree with this when it comes to roster building.

If you think you're an elite OL scout, prove it and use resources elsewhere.

If your coach thinks he can coach up cornerbacks in this system (or pick whatever position you like), prove it and use resources elsewhere.

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« Reply #494 on: April 19, 2021, 02:10:14 PM »
I agree with this when it comes to roster building.

If you think you're an elite OL scout, prove it and use resources elsewhere.

If your coach thinks he can coach up cornerbacks in this system (or pick whatever position you like), prove it and use resources elsewhere.
So draft a dt instead?

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