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Re: Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?
« Reply #840 on: November 26, 2023, 01:46:02 PM »
You can blame him for anchoring the OL with a nearly 40 yr old OL coming off a season ender

BECTON was clearly proven to be injury prone by last offseason .

AVT we thought it was an anomaly.  Nope he's just interior Becton .

That's 2 out of 3 starters where we just put too many eggs in the basket .

Rodgers snapped his Achilles slipping on the yolk of said basket . If he didn't get injured week 1 he mos def wouldve been injured by now.

So yeah JD needs to eat some crow for the OL. Undoubtedly


Sorry, I was talking about draft picks. 

Seeing that Duane Brown played pretty well, I think it was reasonable to expect after he had dmauegery and was healthy that he'd play at least as good.  I guess the mistake there is not knowing where he was in recovery?

To me Douglas's biggest mistake has been overpaying free agents, but I don't know if that's the price of being a bad team.
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Re: Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?
« Reply #841 on: November 26, 2023, 01:50:56 PM »
Sorry, I was talking about draft picks.
I think BPA is only objectively smart when you have sustained success and 0 holes . Especially when your trying to go from mid tier to SB contender based off 1 QB acquisition.  They thought Rodgers would mask these other deficiencies . Clearly didn't happen .

That hasn't been the case ever as long as I can remember lolol .

It is what it is . We will need to hope Rodgers can convince at least 1 starter quality OL and 1 WR2 or WR3 who is actually solid to come here on a slight discount. Letting Huff walk and JFM go would be required just to do that. 

Then we need interior depth because the other DL Woods and Johnson are gone and Woods career is likely done.  We need an AL Woods clone next to Q for Run d.


Then we literally need to draft nothing but OL and WRs

If we take a Safety or Linebacker or some wild excrement based off BPA

Joe Douglas can die in a fire.
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Re: Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?
« Reply #842 on: November 26, 2023, 01:53:09 PM »
The one no Brainer move we all know is happening is Uzomah clears up 8 mil .

Question is where the rest of the cap space is coming from

I think JFM gone is a lock if we're serious about fixing the Offense. 

Mosely may have to go as well

Anyone feel like Zaire Barnes can start?

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Re: Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?
« Reply #843 on: November 26, 2023, 01:54:16 PM »
Maybe we can get in the top 10 and trade back to recoup a pick.  If we wish hard enough it'll happen one day.

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Re: Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?
« Reply #844 on: November 26, 2023, 01:57:32 PM »
The one no Brainer move we all know is happening is Uzomah clears up 8 mil .

Question is where the rest of the cap space is coming from

I think JFM gone is a lock if we're serious about fixing the Offense. 

Mosely may have to go as well

Anyone feel like Zaire Barnes can start?

Lol



The cap will go up anyway as it usually does, so that'll make some space. 

Right now overthecap.com has us at about $31 million of cap space for 2024 as is.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-york-jets
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Re: Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?
« Reply #845 on: November 26, 2023, 01:59:31 PM »
The cap will go up anyway as it usually does, so that'll make some space. 

Right now ovwrthecap.com has us at about $31 million of cap space for 2024 as is.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-york-jets
And we need like 3 OL 1 DT 2 WRs

So let's make this clear

JD needs to draft starters in rd 1 and 3

Not rotational see you in 2025 guys

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Re: Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?
« Reply #846 on: November 26, 2023, 02:03:32 PM »
JD needs to draft starters in rd 1 and 3

Well..... someone does. Given his track record, are you trusting Douglas to do it?
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Re: Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?
« Reply #847 on: November 26, 2023, 02:03:56 PM »
Maybe we can get in the top 10 and trade back to recoup a pick.  If we wish hard enough it'll happen one day.
Going back from 10 to something like 17 could get us a mid 2nd.

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Re: Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?
« Reply #848 on: November 26, 2023, 02:04:01 PM »
And we need like 3 OL 1 DT 2 WRs

So let's make this clear

JD needs to draft starters in rd 1 and 3

Not rotational see you in 2025 guys

No doubt he has his work cut out for him. 

We can open up some more space by giving Laken a paycut, pushing off some pain with post June 1 cuts, and cutting Uzomah.  Like the Saints proved, you can go as all-in-one as you want with the cap, but you eventually have to pay the piper.

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Re: Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?
« Reply #849 on: November 26, 2023, 02:04:47 PM »
Well..... someone does. Given his track record, are you trusting Douglas to do it?

Unless we get rid of Rodgers you will have to and like it.

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Re: Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?
« Reply #850 on: November 26, 2023, 02:06:30 PM »
Going back from 10 to something like 17 could get us a mid 2nd.

I'm more ambitious, assuming a 6-8 pick.

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Re: Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?
« Reply #851 on: November 26, 2023, 02:07:17 PM »
I'm more ambitious, assuming a 6-8 pick.
Going back from 6 to 16 could get us a high 2nd.

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Re: Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?
« Reply #852 on: November 26, 2023, 02:08:20 PM »
Unless we get rid of Rodgers you will have to and like it.

Why? Rodgers isn't tied to the GM or the head coach, neither of them are his guys.
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Re: Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?
« Reply #853 on: November 26, 2023, 02:10:50 PM »
Why? Rodgers isn't tied to the GM or the head coach, neither of them are his guys.
You think they'll fire Hackett?  Otherwise what HC will want to have an OC forced on him?  They want to try one more year with Rodgers, but I think they believe Hackett will be fine with Rodgers at QB.  Rodgers and the rest of the Jets staff are tied at the hip. 
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Re: Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?
« Reply #854 on: November 26, 2023, 02:11:47 PM »
Why? Rodgers isn't tied to the GM or the head coach, neither of them are his guys.
They brought him here. Change them and Rodgers' status/commitment for 2024 becomes a question mark.

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