Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?

[Badger]

Been bummed out lately by what a missed opportunity it was to not draft a QB in 2017, or even McCaffrey who would have been a huge boon to our future QB.

Seriously, we had Josh McCown and had already seen a year of Hackenberg showing nothing at all, and Bryce Petty - what was the hesitation to draft another QB high?

I don't think it's a certainty that Mahomes or Watson would have done as poorly as Darnold has here, I think it's a Jets fan coping mechanism to insist good players would be bad if they were Jets.

[Derek Smalls]

Been bummed out lately by what a missed opportunity it was to not draft a QB in 2017, or even McCaffrey who would have been a huge boon to our future QB.

Seriously, we had Josh McCown and had already seen a year of Hackenberg showing nothing at all, and Bryce Petty - what was the hesitation to draft another QB high?

I don't think it's a certainty that Mahomes or Watson would have done as poorly as Darnold has here, I think it's a Jets fan coping mechanism to insist good players would be bad if they were Jets.

Completely agree.

At the same token, I do think Lamar would have probably failed here because I didn't think we had a creative coaching staff to take advantage of his skillet.

It is why I think if we draft Fields or Lance we need a creative offensive coach. Lawrence and Wilson are more scheme agnostic.

[Badger]

At the same token, I do think Lamar would have probably failed here because I didn't think we had a creative coaching staff to take advantage of his skillet.

Yeah, it does apply in some cases, but we have a tendency to use that for every player.

[Badger]

2017 was basically a repeat of 2014, we took a 2nd round QB the year before and passed on multiple starting caliber QBs.

[Libero_2]

2017 was basically a repeat of 2014, we took a 2nd round QB the year before and passed on multiple starting caliber QBs.

Which is a huge reason why I hope we either take the QB at #2, or we pass on the class altogether. The worst thing we could do is take Kyle Trask in round 2 to compete with Sam this year, let Sam walk next year after we go 4-12 and are picking 4th in 2022, and have to decide between Sam Howell or sticking with Trask.

Either go get the QB that you really believe in, or build the roster in the best way you can.

[Derek Smalls]

Which is a huge reason why I hope we either take the QB at #2, or we pass on the class altogether. The worst thing we could do is take Kyle Trask in round 2 to compete with Sam this year, let Sam walk next year after we go 4-12 and are picking 4th in 2022, and have to decide between Sam Howell or sticking with Trask.

Either go get the QB that you really believe in, or build the roster in the best way you can.

If you can self-evaluate, it shouldn't be as much of a problem.  They should have realized Hack sucked. Geno at least showed a few flashes in games and won 8 games. Drafting with Hack and trusting him was inexcusable.

[dcm1602]

Which is a huge reason why I hope we either take the QB at #2, or we pass on the class altogether. The worst thing we could do is take Kyle Trask in round 2 to compete with Sam this year, let Sam walk next year after we go 4-12 and are picking 4th in 2022, and have to decide between Sam Howell or sticking with Trask.

Either go get the QB that you really believe in, or build the roster in the best way you can.

It's kind of a moot point

If Joe Douglas was GM at the time sure, but he wasn't.

Mac proved fairly regularly that he made pretty shitty roster decisions

Now all we can do is hope Joe Douglas knows what he's doing

If he can get value for the 2nd pick, or draft a tackle capable of flirting with being all pro on an annual basis for the next 15 years, I'd be happy with it.

Sure drafting the next Mahomes would be nice, but we should trust his judgment

[Italian Seafood]

How high is Devonte Smith going? Him and another OT would make life easier for any QB.

[SixFeetDeep]

https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1345216461271408640?s=21

[SixFeetDeep]

NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKERS

[CatoTheElder]

NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKERS

You could have just let it die. It would have cost you nothing to just let it die. What I would give to not see this thread bumped for one week.

[AlioTheFool]

NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKERS

GIMMIE A HELL YEAH!

[reuben]

Lock this and the Curious Gase thread.

[Heismanberg]

the "d" in dcm stands for dopamine, not dope

[AlioTheFool]

Lock this and the Curious Gase thread.

No way.

This should be bumped sporadically. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.