Dowell “Tough Shop” Loggains Fan Club

[Andrew Ryan]

Patton Oswalt is quite literally the worst

https://youtu.be/5BBhNkywMJY

[MBGreen]

This is the biggest non issue this offseason. Gase is literally the head coach, OC, QB coach rolled into one. He needs someone there with the title who will sit quietly and collect paychecks to keep his mouth shut all day. As much as I'd be happy to take that job, I wasn't asked and the vast majority of people who are coaches aren't going to take that job--they'd actually like to do something.

You actually have zero idea what Loggains’ involvement will entail outside of not calling the plays.

[Heismanberg]

If he can help Sam learn Gase's offense then it's worth it. 

[SixFeetDeep]

You actually have zero idea what Loggains’ involvement will entail outside of not calling the plays.

“Gameplanning and tutoring Sam Darnold on a day-to-day basis” according to Cimini

[SixFeetDeep]

This is the biggest non issue this offseason. Gase is literally the head coach, OC, QB coach rolled into one. He needs someone there with the title who will sit quietly and collect paychecks to keep his mouth shut all day. As much as I'd be happy to take that job, I wasn't asked and the vast majority of people who are coaches aren't going to take that job--they'd actually like to do something.

You’re right, there are probably zero coaches out there that want the opportunity to work with Sam Darnold

[MBGreen]

“Gameplanning and tutoring Sam Darnold on a day-to-day basis” according to Cimini

Scary

[Heismanberg]

TOTJ fag won't stop being a whiny bitch about this, so it's a good hire in my book.

[Andrew Ryan]

Quarterbacks Loggains has coached in the NFL:

Kerry Collins
Vince Young
Jake Locker
Matt Hasselbeck
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Brian Hoyer
Johnny Manziel (rookie)
Jay Cutler
Matt Barkley
Mike Glennon
Mitchell Trubisky (rookie)
Ryan Tannehill
Brock Osweiler

One Pro Bowler among them. Kerry Collins in 2008. Loggains' first year as a QB coach.

[Johnny English]

Quarterbacks Loggains has coached in the NFL:

Kerry Collins
Vince Young
Jake Locker
Matt Hasselbeck
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Brian Hoyer
Johnny Manziel (rookie)
Jay Cutler
Matt Barkley
Mike Glennon
Mitchell Trubisky (rookie)
Ryan Tannehill
Brock Osweiler

One Pro Bowler among them. Kerry Collins in 2008. Loggains' first year as a QB coach.

VYwent to the Pro Bo in 2009 as well. Loggains wasn't QB coach in either year, at least if Wikipedia is correct. Not sure what any of that proves.

[Andrew Ryan]

VYwent to the Pro Bo in 2009 as well. Loggains wasn't QB coach in either year, at least if Wikipedia is correct. Not sure what any of that proves.

You're right. I had my years wrong. He became QB coach in 2010 and I forgot Young made the Pro Bowl in 09.

My only point was to illustrate that Loggains has mostly had excrement to work with and perhaps we should reserve judgment until he and Gase show what they can do with Darnold.

[Derek Smalls]

The offense is Gase's offense. You guys are getting way too upset over Loggains. He's a package deal with Gase. Just accept it. He'll be there to gameplan and do what Gase needs him to do.

He's the new Dennis Thurman.

And to Alio's point - I don't think Gase is going to be doing too many things at once. Remember, the last 3 years, he did all of that AND run a lot of the personnel stuff.

[Italian Seafood]

I’m on the fence with him too...

That fence should be a more like a big beautiful wall.

[MBGreen]

That fence should be a more like a big beautiful wall.

Maybe your racist president will build you one.

[Italian Seafood]

Maybe your racist president will build you one.

He served his two terms, can't run again.

[AlioTheFool]

I was being hyperbolic to make a point. I don't think Loggains is literally going to sit in a corner quietly playing with Legos all day.

He's just not going to be the primary guy in Sam's development. Building on what Derek Smalls said, Gase has to be more aware of the demands on his time here than he was in Miami. Loggains is the guy who will fill the role of being in charge during practice while Gase oversees the team, and he'll certainly work with Darnold on learning the offense, but at the end of the day, this is Gase's offense and I highly doubt he's letting anyone else run it.