Dowell “Tough Shop” Loggains Fan Club

[Italian Seafood]

Probably bodes extremely poorly for us we haven't even interviewed other OC candidates.

So even if we pass it's not like there will be good options on the market

Gase is his own OC so I'm not too worried about it.

A little concerning he wants no part of the D. People flipped their excrement on Rex for not caring about the offense and he never came out and said he wanted no part of it. Glad we got Williams though, hopefully it works.

[MBGreen]

A little concerning he wants no part of the D. People flipped their excrement on Rex for not caring about the offense and he never came out and said he wanted no part of it. 

I'm not concerned, because this is an offense-driven league.  I want the emphasis to be focused on the offense. 

I think the D is in good hands with Geg.

[CatoTheElder]

He already made decisions about the defensive coaching staff before the GRE Williams hire was official so I think he's maintaining some kind of oversight.

[Italian Seafood]

Good thing for Darnold is he will be in the same offense for a few years. Given the Johnsons' history we're looking at at least 4 years even worst case scenario. If you have a high profile OC, someone hires him away if he's good and he gets fired if he's bad, so in our case now Darnold won't have to learn a new offense every year or two.

[Gorilla]

I'm not concerned, because this is an offense-driven league.  I want the emphasis to be focused on the offense. 

I think the D is in good hands with Geg.

Same here.
Gase is very hands-on with the offense and QB, and is comfortable putting the defense in the hands of a proven, successful coordinator, with HC experience to boot.

Rex was hands off with the offense, but he put it in the hands of whatever Make-A-Wish kid walked into his office that year.

[Italian Seafood]

Rex was hands off with the offense, but he put it in the hands of whatever Make-A-Wish kid walked into his office that year.

In the beginning he kept Schottenheimer from the Mangini staff, then they traded up to get Sanchez and Greene in the draft, traded for Braylon Edwards early in the season, Santonio and LT the next year. Once we moved on from that and got into Sparano etc it was downhill from there.

[d sw0rdz]

In the beginning he kept Schottenheimer from the Mangini staff, then they traded up to get Sanchez and Greene in the draft, traded for Braylon Edwards early in the season, Santonio and LT the next year. Once we moved on from that and got into Sparano etc it was downhill from there.

even with all of those pieces i feel schottenheimer held the team's offense back with his 'let me outsmart the opponents by outsmarting myself' excrement. conservative, plays scared, non-sensical play calls, with no creativity, innovation, efficiency, or sense of building an offensive rhythm

after watching seattle in the playoffs it was obvious he's still doing that to his teams

[dcm1602]

It is an unreasonable assessment to say the Jets aren't even bothering to interview OCs and are jsut waiting for Miami to cut hobbit instead? Which Miami will wait for as long as possible to do for thst very reason

[Pope]

It is an unreasonable assessment to say the Jets aren't even bothering to interview OCs and are jsut waiting for Miami to cut hobbit instead? Which Miami will wait for as long as possible to do for thst very reason

And then Miami has no OC so I’m not sure that’s the best plan for them either

[Italian Seafood]

even with all of those pieces i feel schottenheimer held the team's offense back with his 'let me outsmart the opponents by outsmarting myself' excrement. conservative, plays scared, non-sensical play calls, with no creativity, innovation, efficiency, or sense of building an offensive rhythm

after watching seattle in the playoffs it was obvious he's still doing that to his teams

Yeah, he never took that next step. For a while he was considered an up and coming OC for a future head coach job. My point about Rex is he kept the continuity on O, Tannenbaum got them a bunch of players. The notion that they ignored the offense I don't buy.

Same here, let Williams run the D and let Gase focus on what he's good at.

[Rosetta Stoned]

Yeah, he never took that next step. For a while he was considered an up and coming OC for a future head coach job. My point about Rex is he kept the continuity on O, Tannenbaum got them a bunch of players. The notion that they ignored the offense I don't buy.

TBH honest he pulled a rabbit out of his derriere in '06 with the offensive personnel we had available. Too bad he never took the next step. I was honestly surprised earlier this season, when I found out he still had a job as an OC in the league.

[Heismanberg]

Miami released him and we’re expected to hire him

[MBGreen]

Miami released him and we’re expected to hire him

I'll chalk this up to Loggains knowing how Gase likes his coffee...no more no less.

[insanity]

I'll chalk this up to Loggains knowing how Gase likes his cocaine...no more no less.

FYP

[Italian Seafood]

TBH honest he pulled a rabbit out of his derriere in '06 with the offensive personnel we had available. Too bad he never took the next step. I was honestly surprised earlier this season, when I found out he still had a job as an OC in the league.

In hindsight 2006 was probably more a result of a healthy Chad Pennington, who was his own OC on the field. He made a lot of coaches look better than they were.