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Re: Unitarian Universalist Church of Leonard Williams
« Reply #60 on: December 13, 2018, 09:28:21 AM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/mattwaldman/status/1072165276505001991

Is this your king??

ha...I commented on that play in the game thread.  Nobody said anything.

I guess it was a bad camera angle too ::)
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Re: Unitarian Universalist Church of Leonard Williams
« Reply #61 on: December 13, 2018, 11:54:19 AM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/mattwaldman/status/1072165276505001991

Is this your king??

LOL, one play sample size dude!

BTW: Buster freaking Skrine made the tackle on that play.
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Re: Unitarian Universalist Church of Leonard Williams
« Reply #62 on: December 13, 2018, 12:02:04 PM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/mattwaldman/status/1072165276505001991

Is this your king??

And the week before Allen ran over Myles Jack to score a TD. It's almost like he's quite good at this excrement.
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Re: Unitarian Universalist Church of Leonard Williams
« Reply #63 on: December 13, 2018, 12:54:57 PM »
It's like you guys want to be miserable...

There is another angle of this play where you can see Leonard is still fighting off the blocker when Allen runs through. 

There's a difference between laziness and not making a difficult play.

Allen is the same size Cam Newton and you're questioning Leonard's effort because he didnt tackle him with 1 arm while Allen was running at him

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Re: Unitarian Universalist Church of Leonard Williams
« Reply #64 on: December 13, 2018, 01:32:37 PM »
Leonard “Big Kat” Williams didn’t want any part of big bad Josh Allen on that TD scramble after being on the receiving end of that vicious stiff arm earlier in the game
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Re: Unitarian Universalist Church of Leonard Williams
« Reply #66 on: December 13, 2018, 02:08:11 PM »
All jokes aside, this article got me thinking last night. I’ve been thinking for a while now that one of the best uses of our cap space this offseason would be to sign Leo to an extension. If the FA market doesn’t produce the players we need, it would be a wise use of the extra cap. The question is how much will he get.

https://nypost.com/2018/12/12/jets-dont-know-which-direction-to-take-with-leonard-williams/
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Re: Unitarian Universalist Church of Leonard Williams
« Reply #67 on: December 13, 2018, 03:36:21 PM »
All jokes aside, this article got me thinking last night. I’ve been thinking for a while now that one of the best uses of our cap space this offseason would be to sign Leo to an extension. If the FA market doesn’t produce the players we need, it would be a wise use of the extra cap. The question is how much will he get.

https://nypost.com/2018/12/12/jets-dont-know-which-direction-to-take-with-leonard-williams/
Leo can ask for 17 million a year like Wilk got, but his production simply isn’t there to warrant that kind of pay. I’d bet he’s more in the $12-13 range now
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Re: Unitarian Universalist Church of Leonard Williams
« Reply #68 on: December 14, 2018, 05:36:09 PM »
Say some team offers you a 2nd rounder for Leonard Williams.  Do you just take the offer, assuming that he's reached his ceiling here and will never live up to his draft status, or do you take a chance that a different defensive scheme can turn him into what he was supposed to be?

I know the Jets have more than enough cash to keep him. That's not the issue. If this production can be replaced by a mid round draft pick or a cheaper veteran like Henry Anderson, why pay him over $10 million per year? If they believe that he's been mediocre statistically because he's been miscast in the defense then that's a different story. I just hope the new regime doesn't keep him around just because he was the 6th overall pick.
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Re: Unitarian Universalist Church of Leonard Williams
« Reply #69 on: December 14, 2018, 05:45:45 PM »
Say some team offers you a 2nd rounder for Leonard Williams.  Do you just take the offer, assuming that he's reached his ceiling here and will never live up to his draft status, or do you take a chance that a different defensive scheme can turn him into what he was supposed to be?

I know the Jets have more than enough cash to keep him. That's not the issue. If this production can be replaced by a mid round draft pick or a cheaper veteran like Henry Anderson, why pay him over $10 million per year? If they believe that he's been mediocre statistically because he's been miscast in the defense then that's a different story. I just hope the new regime doesn't keep him around just because he was the 6th overall pick.

I would take a 2nd-round pick for Leonard Williams rather than pay him market value. I would rather have the extra draft asset. They could find a replacement to do 80% of what Williams does for cheaper, and then they could reinvest the 2nd-round pick to help build the roster.

Williams will be 25 years old next year, so he's still young enough where he can improve, but he seems light he might be plateauing as a Shaun Ellis-caliber player. Ellis was a great Jet and a very good starter for a while, but we were hoping for more from the new Big Cat when we drafted him.

We do have to start spending money somewhere, and as long as Williams doesn't need a boatload of money, he's certainly a fine player to keep, but I'd rather take my chances in a trade and free agency.

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Re: Unitarian Universalist Church of Leonard Williams
« Reply #70 on: December 14, 2018, 06:14:56 PM »
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Re: Unitarian Universalist Church of Leonard Williams
« Reply #71 on: December 14, 2018, 08:08:46 PM »
Say some team offers you a 2nd rounder for Leonard Williams.  Do you just take the offer, assuming that he's reached his ceiling here and will never live up to his draft status, or do you take a chance that a different defensive scheme can turn him into what he was supposed to be?

I know the Jets have more than enough cash to keep him. That's not the issue. If this production can be replaced by a mid round draft pick or a cheaper veteran like Henry Anderson, why pay him over $10 million per year? If they believe that he's been mediocre statistically because he's been miscast in the defense then that's a different story. I just hope the new regime doesn't keep him around just because he was the 6th overall pick.


No. Why would you trade a good established player? We're supposed to be getting help for players like Leo, not trading him because the lack of help is making him look worse than he is.
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Re: Unitarian Universalist Church of Leonard Williams
« Reply #72 on: December 14, 2018, 10:24:38 PM »
Say some team offers you a 2nd rounder for Leonard Williams.  Do you just take the offer, assuming that he's reached his ceiling here and will never live up to his draft status, or do you take a chance that a different defensive scheme can turn him into what he was supposed to be?

I know the Jets have more than enough cash to keep him. That's not the issue. If this production can be replaced by a mid round draft pick or a cheaper veteran like Henry Anderson, why pay him over $10 million per year? If they believe that he's been mediocre statistically because he's been miscast in the defense then that's a different story. I just hope the new regime doesn't keep him around just because he was the 6th overall pick.


It depends entirely on what the new regime thinks of him. If they want him you keep him and pay him. If the new group thinks he is overvalued and we can get similar production from a cheaper player, take the asset and try and build the offense.
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Re: Unitarian Universalist Church of Leonard Williams
« Reply #73 on: December 14, 2018, 10:41:09 PM »
No. Why would you trade a good established player? We're supposed to be getting help for players like Leo, not trading him because the lack of help is making him look worse than he is.

It’s not in a vacuum. He’s due a big contract. The question here is he worth the contract he will command for his production on the field.

I think we should extend him, as long as he’s paid fairly- market value. Mega deal would scare me off. We shouldn’t be in the business of getting rid of our good players, we only have a few right now.
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Re: Unitarian Universalist Church of Leonard Williams
« Reply #74 on: December 15, 2018, 12:17:09 AM »
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