Unitarian Universalist Church of Leonard Williams

[Derek Smalls]

The video last week didn't bother me that much. This one is worse. If Jenkins or Anderson is able to slow him down, Leo would have had a chance to make the stop. He probably isn't going to catch Allen without help, but it's still pathetic effort.

[CatoTheElder]

Again, haven't watched much of this season, but are we at the point where we think Williams is at the Wilkerson level of effort?

[insanity]

Again, haven't watched much of this season, but are we at the point where we think Williams is at the Wilkerson level of effort?

No.  I select few are trying to get there though based on watching select clips

[MexJetinBcn]

There's something called camera angles, and they can deceive you. Williams is nowhere as near Allen as it looks in that video. He's probably 5 or 6 yards away and Allen is way faster.

[SixFeetDeep]

Again, haven't watched much of this season, but are we at the point where we think Williams is at the Wilkerson level of effort?

I’ve seen Wilkerson flop into an Offensive Lineman and fall down with more effort than that play

[AlioTheFool]

Even if you forgive the distance thanks to camera angles, I don't see how anyone can support Williams on that one in terms of effort. He clearly gave zero effort and I can't believe we can't all find common ground on at least that.

Watch Henry Anderson on that play. That's effort.

[MexJetinBcn]

Even if you forgive the distance thanks to camera angles, I don't see how anyone can support Williams on that one in terms of effort. He clearly gave zero effort and I can't believe we can't all find common ground on at least that.

Watch Henry Anderson on that play. That's effort.

He's too far, there was no way he could reach Allen. Imagine he was on the other side of the field. Well, it's the same. It's not about running just for the sake of running.

[AlioTheFool]

He's too far, there was no way he could reach Allen. Imagine he was on the other side of the field. Well, it's the same. It's not about running just for the sake of running.

He was next to Anderson. Anderson shed blocks and got to Allen's feet. I don't care if Williams doesn't make the play. I care that there are 9.5* other guys running around the field in green jerseys on that play and one making a business decision.


*Williamson gave up on that play too, but not as early as Leo did.

[MexJetinBcn]

He was next to Anderson. Anderson shed blocks and got to Allen's feet. I don't care if Williams doesn't make the play. I care that there are 9.5* other guys running around the field in green jerseys on that play and one making a business decision.


*Williamson gave up on that play too, but not as early as Leo did.

And what good it is to run and get to someone's feet? Is there a stat for that?

[AlioTheFool]

And what good it is to run and get to someone's feet? Is there a stat for that?

Why would there need to be a stat for that?

Henry Anderson put in an effort and at least made contact with Allen. Leonard Williams took the play off because who cares if Allen scores there, right?

I wonder if Jamal Adams has no problem with what happened on that play.

[MexJetinBcn]

Sports is not about running just for the sake of it. I know it looks better if you do, but if it's pointless, why tire yourself out? Williams looked like a bum for not running, would it have made a difference? No. Was actually better in the long run that he didn't run? Quite likely.

[CatoTheElder]

After rewatching this clip, it looks like Williams was going the other way at the snap and had to fight through to get back to that point. I think I'll let him judge how much the dive would have been worth at that point.

[Libero_2]

One play sample size... where we don’t even get the whole play. Hell for all we know he just got gut punched by the OL and the wind knocked out of him and couldn’t breathe well enough to move.

But of course carry on assuming he’s a piece of white hot lazy trash. I’ll believe it when Adams starts calling him out.

[MBGreen]

I suppose it could've been worse.  We could've passed on Leo for Kevin White.

[SixFeetDeep]

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattwaldman/status/1072165276505001991

Is this your king??