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Re: President Mal
« Reply #750 on: November 15, 2019, 12:49:26 PM »
Quote from: Badger on November 14, 2019, 04:22:04 PM
Different situation and all, but trading Abraham was a key part of our 2006 rebuild.

That being said, I don't want to trade Adams. We can allocate the resources we already have on the OL without sacrificing another part of the team.

This is a great comparison, actually. I think the difference with Abraham was that he cared more about getting paid than winning, and he was hurt a lot. If I remember correctly he skipped the playoffs while Pennington was out there with his arm falling off trying to will us through the games. So while he played an important position, he was less reliable and less of a leader to commit that much money and years to. The fact that we turned him into Nick Mangold (I think) was a rare stroke of luck for this franchise. Would have been interesting if he was still here when Rex got here. #KeepRex

Unless Jamal turns into more of an Abraham than a Keyshawn I think trading him is nuts. The idea is to add top young talent, not to get rid if it. 
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #751 on: November 15, 2019, 01:18:25 PM »
Wasn't the strong rumor also that Abraham wanted to play in Atlanta, and the Jets were trading him to get value for him before he walked freely?

Adams has flat out said he wants to not only stay, but help lead this team to a Lombardi. He gives 100% on every single play. By all accounts, he works just as hard in practice as in-game.

You keep guys like that. They're foundational players and you build your team around them.
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Quote from: Badger on October 29, 2014, 07:20:05 PM
Teams that draft well do so no matter where they pick. Teams that draft poorly do so no matter where they pick I want my team to win games and draft well

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Re: President Mal
« Reply #752 on: November 15, 2019, 01:20:35 PM »
Pretty interesting trade history for Abraham's career:

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April 18, 1998: Traded by Chargers as 2000 1st round pick (13th overall) to Buccaneers for 1998 2nd round pick (59th overall, Mikhael Ricks)

April 12, 2000: Traded by Buccaneers as 2000 1st round pick (13th overall) with 2000 1st round pick (27th overall, Anthony Becht) to Jets for Keyshawn Johnson

March 22, 2006: Traded by Jets to Falcons as part of a 3-team trade. Broncos sent 2006 1st round pick (29th overall, Nick Mangold) to Jets. Broncos sent 2006 3rd round pick (93rd overall subsequently traded, Dominique Byrd) and 2007 4th round pick (121st overall subsequently traded, Marcus Thomas) to Falcons. Falcons sent 2006 1st round pick (15th overall subsequently traded, Tye Hill) to Broncos.

So Keyshawn eventually became Nick Mangold.
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Quote from: Badger on October 29, 2014, 07:20:05 PM
Teams that draft well do so no matter where they pick. Teams that draft poorly do so no matter where they pick I want my team to win games and draft well

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Re: President Mal
« Reply #753 on: November 15, 2019, 01:43:59 PM »
Quote from: AlioTheFool on November 15, 2019, 01:20:35 PM
Pretty interesting trade history for Abraham's career:

So Keyshawn eventually became Nick Mangold.

Wow, that's pretty good.

Reminds me of Bill Cartwright--Knicks drafted him in 1979, played 10 years here, traded to Chicago for Charles Oakley in 1988, Oak played 10 years here and was traded to Toronto for Marcus Camby in 1998. If they dummies who took over didn't trade Camby we could still be in business.
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Quote from: SixFeetDeep on March 13, 2014, 10:57:59 AM
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #754 on: November 15, 2019, 02:04:40 PM »
I would think whether Adams throws a bitch fit about getting a new contract like Clark said is a huge factor as well.

If Adams is willing to play his 4th year, 5th year option, and franchise tag the next 3 years then I can understand keeping him.

If he thinks he's getting Elite money after this season, the Jets absolutely have to trade his derriere.

Personally id trade him Eitherway, but those two factors would make the decision a whole lot easier or harder
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #755 on: November 15, 2019, 02:46:17 PM »
Our President with an absolute beat down on that idiot Leonard Fournette on twitter.

https://twitter.com/TheAdamsEra/status/1195366501303357440
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #756 on: November 15, 2019, 07:04:03 PM »
Quote from: mj2sexay on November 15, 2019, 02:46:17 PM
Our President with an absolute beat down on that idiot Leonard Fournette on twitter.

https://twitter.com/TheAdamsEra/status/1195366501303357440

Yes, we know. Try and keep up.
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #757 on: November 15, 2019, 07:07:32 PM »
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #758 on: November 15, 2019, 07:10:08 PM »
Did you guys see the follow up to that tweet though?

https://twitter.com/TheAdamsEra/status/1195366501303357440
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #759 on: November 15, 2019, 07:31:33 PM »
Quote from: Badger on November 15, 2019, 07:07:32 PM
https://twitter.com/TheAdamsEra/status/1195366501303357440?s=19

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You're all just bitter because your hockey team sucks even more than mine does.
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #760 on: November 18, 2019, 11:09:27 AM »
So should we trade him right now for 2 second rounders?
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Quote from: Badger on October 29, 2014, 07:20:05 PM
Teams that draft well do so no matter where they pick. Teams that draft poorly do so no matter where they pick I want my team to win games and draft well

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Re: President Mal
« Reply #761 on: November 18, 2019, 11:28:03 AM »
Quote from: AlioTheFool on November 18, 2019, 11:09:27 AM
So should we trade him right now for 2 second rounders?

Whatever DCM thinks we should get.


BTW I was fed up with his bs at the trade deadline too. I have overcome that though. lol
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #762 on: November 18, 2019, 11:38:57 AM »
Quote from: Miamipuck on November 18, 2019, 11:28:03 AM
Whatever DCM thinks we should get.


BTW I was fed up with his bs at the trade deadline too. I have overcome that though. lol

The guy talked his talk. Then he went out and walked it. He felt he was elite and should be treated that way. He wasn't wrong.
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Quote from: Badger on October 29, 2014, 07:20:05 PM
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #763 on: November 18, 2019, 11:39:20 AM »
President Mal has more sacks in the past 3 weeks (6) than Leo Williams has since the beginning of last season (5).
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Quote from: Badger on October 29, 2014, 07:20:05 PM
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #764 on: November 18, 2019, 12:21:55 PM »
The dude is excellent. But he feasted against the worst offense in the league, and a bad offense missing 3 linemen.

Jamals the best player on the team. But Sam succeeding is more important.

Hopefully Jamals up to two 1st and a 3rd for him and a 4th or 5th
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