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Re: President Mal
« Reply #735 on: November 14, 2019, 08:38:38 PM »
Beachum is going to be an UFA. Who knows what kind of contract he lands.

Center is a diasaster I don't disagree there.

But I'll take Lewis and Winters over giving Beachum a big contract and having faith in whoever to step up at tackle. Though I think we could upgrade on both of them inside.

Winters has been shitty and hurt, but I think he has a fairly solid chance of coming back next year even though we save almost 8 million if we cut him

And none of us know where or why all the confusion on the OL is coming from. It seems like none of them have a freaking clue what they are supposed to be doing on any given play
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #736 on: November 14, 2019, 08:47:08 PM »
Beachum is going to be an UFA. Who knows what kind of contract he lands.

Center is a diasaster I don't disagree there.

But I'll take Lewis and Winters over giving Beachum a big contract and having faith in whoever to step up at tackle. Though I think we could upgrade on both of them inside.

Winters has been shitty and hurt, but I think he has a fairly solid chance of coming back next year even though we save almost 8 million if we cut him

And none of us know where or why all the confusion on the OL is coming from. It seems like none of them have a freaking clue what they are supposed to be doing on any given play

Lewis has been garbage the last two weeks after a promising start, his career has been dogged by injuries and mediocre play. Winters is running out of credit, especially given his salary; he might be able to be good again but no one's putting money on it at this stage.

Again, we can stand to upgrade every single position on the OL but right now Beachum is our best starter and LT is our least significant problem. Thomas can play either side, hence my suggestion that we draft him and put him at RT with Shell moving to guard.

Clearly the coaching is a huge issue. Dennison was doing better with less talent.
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #737 on: November 14, 2019, 08:51:04 PM »
I don't think Shell is coming back. He was drafted by the old regime. The new regime made him the first scapegoat for the OL troubles early this season. I don't see the Jets bringing him back.

Edoga, Winters, Harrison and McDermott are the only OL under contract next season. While it's probably unrealistic to get 5 new OL, we will probably try to get 2-4 new starters.

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Re: President Mal
« Reply #738 on: November 14, 2019, 08:55:41 PM »
Lewis has been garbage the last two weeks after a promising start, his career has been dogged by injuries and mediocre play. Winters is running out of credit, especially given his salary; he might be able to be good again but no one's putting money on it at this stage.

Again, we can stand to upgrade every single position on the OL but right now Beachum is our best starter and LT is our least significant problem. Thomas can play either side, hence my suggestion that we draft him and put him at RT with Shell moving to guard.

Clearly the coaching is a huge issue. Dennison was doing better with less talent.

Lewis could probably come back on a one year deal for next to nothing.

Beachum is probably getting a 3 to 4 year deal with starter money

I don't think I'd want to invest into Beachum like that
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #739 on: November 14, 2019, 09:01:15 PM »
Lewis could probably come back on a one year deal for next to nothing.

Beachum is probably getting a 3 to 4 year deal with starter money

I don't think I'd want to invest into Beachum like that

Why would you rather have cheap excrement linemen than OK ones on OK money?
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #740 on: November 14, 2019, 09:11:58 PM »
Why would you rather have cheap excrement linemen than OK ones on OK money?

Because free agency starts before the draft.

You don't know who will be available when you are on the clock.

If you give Beachum big money then draft an LT it's awkward.

If you give Lewis excrement then draft a guard, then he's just depth.

And they all need to be replaced

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Re: President Mal
« Reply #741 on: November 14, 2019, 09:14:03 PM »
Because free agency starts before the draft.

You don't know who will be available when you are on the clock.

If you give Beachum big money then draft an LT it's awkward.

If you give Lewis excrement then draft a guard, then he's just depth.

And they all need to be replaced

Have you looked at the draft? We're not taking two tackles. In an ideal world we'll take one with our first pick, then go back to OL with one of our second round picks.

Beachum is going to be value for money on his next contract and we're going to need him.
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #742 on: November 14, 2019, 09:18:26 PM »
Have you looked at the draft? We're not taking two tackles. In an ideal world we'll take one with our first pick, then go back to OL with one of our second round picks.

Beachum is going to be value for money on his next contract and we're going to need him.

If we draft an LT in the top 5 can Beachum play right tackle?

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Re: President Mal
« Reply #743 on: November 14, 2019, 09:21:23 PM »
If we draft an LT in the top 5 can Beachum play right tackle?

If we draft Andrew Thomas in the top 5 he can play right tackle and Beachum can play LT. I believe I already explained this. And if Tyler Biadasz falls to our second round pick, or if we can trade back into the first for him, we'll have our center.

Beachum - Shell - Biadasz - Winters - Thomas looks like a wet dream.
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #744 on: November 14, 2019, 09:25:05 PM »
If we draft Andrew Thomas in the top 5 he can play right tackle and Beachum can play LT. I believe I already explained this. And if Tyler Biadasz falls to our second round pick, or if we can trade back into the first for him, we'll have our center.

Beachum - Shell - Biadasz - Winters - Thomas looks like a wet dream.

Do we draft an LT in the first to have him play RT for 3 years while we're paying beachum solid money though?

I doubt Beachum settles for less than 3 years of solid guaranteed money

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Re: President Mal
« Reply #745 on: November 14, 2019, 09:27:21 PM »
Do we draft an LT in the first to have him play RT for 3 years while we're paying beachum solid money though?

I doubt Beachum settles for less than 3 years of solid guaranteed money
You know there's a draft every year, right?
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #746 on: November 14, 2019, 09:40:00 PM »
You know there's a draft every year, right?

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Re: President Mal
« Reply #747 on: November 15, 2019, 08:34:42 AM »
^ haha
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #748 on: November 15, 2019, 12:42:31 PM »
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Re: President Mal
« Reply #749 on: November 15, 2019, 12:43:55 PM »
Your post was insanely vague and generic.

How? I laid out exactly which positions I'd start with (OT, C), where I'd get the hardest one to fill (OT, top 10 pick), how it would affect the existing players (Bell, Darnold, whoever plays OG). Then I looked at the year after next, how old our main players would be, and who we'd have here to help them. Did you want a mock draft or something? Of course if you miss on the draft picks we'll continue to be a bad team, we've done that for years, but what is your plan to fix the O line, beginning with the tackles?

Your plan seems to be cut and trade anyone of value to save money and keep starting over. We've done that two or three times now since our last playoff appearance, how is that working out for you?
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