fans routing for the Jets to lose please post here

[dcm1602]

Highly touted newcomer Bill O'Brien just went into his first season with Ryan Fitzpatrick, Ryan Mallett and Tom Savage.

There is zero guarantee we're getting a blue chip QB prospect if we lose out.

Of course there's zero guarantee.

But the odds of an incredibly talented QB being available if we have a top 3 pick are drastically greater than if we're drafting at say 11

[Badger]

Of course there's zero guarantee.

But the odds of an incredibly talented QB being available if we have a top 3 pick are drastically greater than if we're drafting at say 11

Not drastically, and way too early to say anything where the QBs are going to go in this draft.

[dcm1602]

Not drastically, and way too early to say anything where the QBs are going to go in this draft.

Significant enough of a difference ,  that I'd rather lose out this year, than not have a top 30 QB again next year

[Badger]

Significant enough of a difference ,  that I'd rather lose out this year, than not have a top 30 QB again next year

How's that working out for JAX?

[dcm1602]

How's that working out for JAX?

I suppose we could sign Blake Bortles backup Chad Henne instead of drafting a QB.

That would be much better

And despite having Allen Robinson, Cecil Shorts, Clay Harbor, and Toby Gerhart as his offensive weapons.

Blake Bortles has a higher QB rating as a rookie than Geno did both this and last year

[Ignatius J Reilly]

Of course there's zero guarantee.

But the odds of an incredibly talented QB being available if we have a top 3 pick are drastically greater than if we're drafting at say 11

Tampa may take a QB early.  I doubt anyone else does.

[Badger]

Blake Bortles has a higher QB rating as a rookie than Geno did both this and last year

Picks number 32 Teddy Bridgewater and 36 Derek Carr both have higher passer ratings than Geno and Bortles. Your argument holds no water.

[dcm1602]

Picks number 32 Teddy Bridgewater and 36 Derek Carr both have higher passer ratings than Geno and Bortles. Your argument holds no water.

Well lets look back a little further

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=position

You can see a pretty clear cut trend.

Some guys fell through the cracks (Foles, Wilson, Kaep)

But frequently the best guys go first

Luck, Newton, Bradford, Stafford, Ryan, Flacco, Smith Rodgers, Manning Rivers etc etc

Or put differently if you went back the last 10 years I think youll clearly notice that the first 2~ QBs drafted each year tend to be better than the rest of the list.

[Jetaho]

So who are these awesome QBs that will be in the top 5? 

Mariota?  Jameis?

I'm not seeing it.

[Badger]

So who are these awesome QBs that will be in the top 5? 

Mariota?  Jameis?

I'm not seeing it.

The more someone wants their team to lose for a better pick, the less you know they know about the draft.

[Johnny English]

I'm still amused by SFD calling Hawk and dcm "blubbering pussies".

[hawk]

I'm still amused by SFD calling Hawk and dcm "blubbering pussies".

Me too!

[dcm1602]

The more someone wants their team to lose for a better pick, the less you know they know about the draft.

freak draft picks, theyre just lottery tickets

Theres no trend about the best qbs being picked early or anything.

[Badger]

Teams that draft well do so no matter where they pick. Teams that draft poorly do so no matter where they pick. I want my team to win games and draft well.

[Johnny English]

Teams that draft well do so no matter where they pick. Teams that draft poorly do so no matter where they pick. I want my team to win games and draft well.

/thread

That sums it up more neatly and accurately than I think I've ever seen it done before. Well played.