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   THE PREACHER    vs.     THE CREATURE




Quote from: JohnnyEnglish
Jesus didn't teach us to love all men equally as long as they conformed to a particular set of rules that he didn't actually lay down about who you can screw. I'm not a religious man but

for obvious reasons I have more than a passing familiarity with Christian doctrine

 and a good degree of positive feeling towards much of it, and using Christianity to justify excrement that flies directly in the face of its core tenets is not something that any actual Christian should have any time for.

Tolerance does not translate to "hey, if people want to persecute others for excrement that isn't any of my business I'm happy to tolerate it". Jesus was not a passive man and would waste no time in throwing these modern day Pharisees the freak out of his church, literally and metaphorically.
 Don't make me start quoting scripture.

Quote from: delavam
Impressive (re: the above in bold).  What's next, you're on a first name basis with God?  : )

And as far as "persecution" goes, in Provoro's mind I'm thinking he does not equate skipping a warmup in 'mandated garb' as endorsing persecution per se but more "not my cup of tea, mind if I choose to sit this one out?"  As for quoting scriptures, seems the Old Testament's references to marriage are boy/girl 'hetero' and that's what Provorov's hanging his hat on.  As a former alterboy who's surreptitiously scarfed down many an early morning cruet of unconsecrated wine and unleavened wafers in the sacristy (and can still recite The Confiteor in Latin), I too am well versed in the scriptures...not really but whatever: 

'in vino veritas'
'suum cuique"

Again, I'm not fraternal with Provorov's worldview nor would I have adopted his sitting out tact but while he could be labeled a pharisaical hypocrite, he on the other hand could possibly view directed brow-beating as undue sanctimony.  For now, Father forgive them for they know not what they do..


Quote from: JohnnyEnglish
Well, yeah, but that's one of the easiest ones of all to poke holes in. Because while Bible scholars will try and twist themselves around this, the fact is that the Holy Trinity and specifically Jesus Christ as Saviour is entirely a function of the New Testament, and if you're going to call yourself a Christian and devote yourself to Christ then it is perverse to ignore his teachings which by definition only appear in the New Testament, and instead use contradictory writings of man from the OT to justify behaviour that Jesus Christ explicitly told you not to do.

So if that's what Provorov's going with, I refer to my previous point that he can freak off. He clearly doesn't understand the first thing about the teachings of Jesus, who was very much a righteous dude who would very much have wanted his devotees to stand up for the persecuted. Tim Tebow knew, even if he forgot add the next verse:

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

Provorov apparently doesn't believe John because he thinks that condemnation is OK, or at least that it's not his job to do anything about it. Dude needs to go do a bit more Bible study, this excrement is pretty much Sunday school 101.

https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1615565477043965954

Condemnation?  Persecution? 

Kevin Hayes (who had a hat trick on Pride Night) when asked to comment on Provorov's decision to sit out the warmup: "It's not for me to answer."   Is Hayes guilty of condemnation?  Or through his non-answer tacitly endorsing 'persecution'?

Back to Provorov: btw, my "are you and God on a first name basis?" was a humorous crack.  Further I knew you were prefacing your 'Jesus scholarship' on your venerable Dad's erudition given his standing in the church--twas nothing more than my at times irreverant sense of humor : )

As to Provorov's 'religion' it should be pointed out that while Eastern Orthodox Churches can be auto conical and independent, the Russian Orthodox Church like it or not unfortunately doesn't hold homosexuality in an accomodating light, i.e. as easy as you may think it is 'to poke holes', their tenets re: all things LGBTQ+ represent a conflicting viewpoint and accordingly their "Sunday school 101" is different than yours, again like it or not.   

https://twitter.com/Capitals/status/1615444741654720512

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