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Re: 2023 Veteran QB Options
« Reply #600 on: January 16, 2023, 02:06:38 PM »
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Re: 2023 Veteran QB Options
« Reply #601 on: January 16, 2023, 02:11:12 PM »
If Lamar ends up being an non exclusive tag blah blah blah and only costs 2 first round picks, that wouldn't be the end of the world.

But I think you're still talking about the biggest QB contract ever, for a run first QB.

10000% Carr is and will be preferable. And if it wasn't for the fact Lamar was on Baltimore, I'm not convinced JD would pursuit him.

My biggest concern is without a run heavy OC. How long until Lamar does on the field?

Greg Roman is probably the biggest reason Lamar's not in a wheel chair.

If we end up with Lamar I absolutely want the most run heavy OC in the modern era of football. If we had Lamar with MLF, the dude would be a quadriplegic

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Re: 2023 Veteran QB Options
« Reply #602 on: January 16, 2023, 02:14:17 PM »
If Lamar ends up being an non exclusive tag blah blah blah and only costs 2 first round picks, that wouldn't be the end of the world.

But I think you're still talking about the biggest QB contract ever, for a run first QB.

10000% Carr is and will be preferable. And if it wasn't for the fact Lamar was on Baltimore, I'm not convinced JD would pursuit him.

My biggest concern is without a run heavy OC. How long until Lamar does on the field?

Greg Roman is probably the biggest reason Lamar's not in a wheel chair.

If we end up with Lamar I absolutely want the most run heavy OC in the modern era of football. If we had Lamar with MLF, the dude would be a quadriplegic

What the hell is this?

This entire post.....is complete nonsense.
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Re: 2023 Veteran QB Options
« Reply #603 on: January 16, 2023, 02:17:07 PM »
Jets fans when shown the possibility of getting a good QB:


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Re: 2023 Veteran QB Options
« Reply #604 on: January 16, 2023, 02:26:34 PM »
I looked at his overall stats over his career.  And they're damn good.

This is hilarious on so many levels

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Re: 2023 Veteran QB Options
« Reply #605 on: January 16, 2023, 02:29:48 PM »
What the hell is this?

This entire post.....is complete nonsense.

Sorry let me translate

Derr MLF bad, Zach Wilson allpro

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Re: 2023 Veteran QB Options
« Reply #606 on: January 16, 2023, 02:30:09 PM »
What the hell is this?

This entire post.....is complete nonsense.
It's actually logically sound.

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Re: 2023 Veteran QB Options
« Reply #607 on: January 16, 2023, 02:30:42 PM »
It's actually logically sound.
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Re: 2023 Veteran QB Options
« Reply #608 on: January 16, 2023, 02:39:13 PM »
"I don't like Lamar, he run too good"
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Re: 2023 Veteran QB Options
« Reply #609 on: January 16, 2023, 02:42:06 PM »
Nobody objects to Lamar being the best paid RB of all time

It's him being the top paid QB ever which is a very legitimate concern.

And I'm not even opposed to Lamar at this point. I just think the value needs to be there, and we need to run a style of offense that'll prolong his career

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Re: 2023 Veteran QB Options
« Reply #610 on: January 16, 2023, 02:48:56 PM »
Nobody objects to Lamar being the best paid RB of all time

It's him being the top paid QB ever which is a very legitimate concern.

And I'm not even opposed to Lamar at this point. I just think the value needs to be there, and we need to run a style of offense that'll prolong his career
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Re: 2023 Veteran QB Options
« Reply #611 on: January 16, 2023, 02:50:41 PM »
Nobody objects to Lamar being the best paid RB of all time

It's him being the top paid QB ever which is a very legitimate concern.

And I'm not even opposed to Lamar at this point. I just think the value needs to be there, and we need to run a style of offense that'll prolong his career
Every good QB that becomes a free agent becomes the top paid QB ever, until the next year or two when someone else becomes the top paid QB ever.

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Re: 2023 Veteran QB Options
« Reply #612 on: January 16, 2023, 02:51:44 PM »
None of the options are perfect but Carr is the best IMO. He's been durable/productive throughout his career and, if he doesn't work out here, we can pretty easily get out of his contract after 2023.
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Re: 2023 Veteran QB Options
« Reply #613 on: January 16, 2023, 03:15:44 PM »
Every good QB that becomes a free agent becomes the top paid QB ever, until the next year or two when someone else becomes the top paid QB ever.

This is completely true.

Except Lamar isn't a free agent he's under contract.

So in his case you're talking about the best QB contract of all time. And major draft compensation. I assume the way he gets tagged will dictate the compensation, as previously it seemed like he would end up causing Watsonesque compensation. Now there's rumors of the non exclusive tag, so 2 1st, vs 3 1sts and then some is a hefty difference.

Regardless everyone's concerns with Lamar is his style of play is very different from literally every other top QB, and that stacked with the contract + draft compensation makes this an unusually high risk move.

The guys capable of being league MVP taking us to a superbowl, and he's also capable of completely crippling this franchise for the next 6+ years.

At least with Carr the ceiling isn't as high as he will almost certainly have no chance of being an MVP candidate, but it's pretty high. But in his case the floor is much much higher than with Lamar. If Carr ends up a diasaster it won't even harm this franchise as much as drafting Zach did.

Regardless if we go with Lamar, I just hope we get an OC that will run the ball like freak and use Lamar's gifts sparingly so that we actually might be able to get elite play out of him for 6+ years

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Re: 2023 Veteran QB Options
« Reply #614 on: January 16, 2023, 04:04:24 PM »
"I don't like Lamar, he run too good"
I mean I laid my case out rationally, lol . Medical cap space and his best skillet will rapidly decline a few years into the deal

Not to mention this OL being dogshit that we couldn't afford to repair and would have to hit on multiple draft picks who contribute immediately


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