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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #195 on: December 09, 2021, 08:26:57 AM »
are you guys really bitching about selling high on an overpaid Safety who can't cover?

No, we're mocking the way in which this franchise continues to fail to capitalise on the draft capital that so many fans obsess over.

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That's it. That's the list of first round draft picks who have made it past their rookie contract with us in the last decade. So forgive me if I find the levels of excitement for kids in suits becoming millionaires in April to be somewhat misplaced, but given the chances of them actually contributing anything of sustained value to the franchise are minimally small it's definitely something worthy of being mocked.

Maybe this regime will be different, just like the others were going to be. I'll believe it when they actually are.
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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #196 on: December 09, 2021, 08:50:16 AM »
No, we're mocking the way in which this franchise continues to fail to capitalise on the draft capital that so many fans obsess over.

Muhammad Wilkerson

That's it. That's the list of first round draft picks who have made it past their rookie contract with us in the last decade. So forgive me if I find the levels of excitement for kids in suits becoming millionaires in April to be somewhat misplaced, but given the chances of them actually contributing anything of sustained value to the franchise are minimally small it's definitely something worthy of being mocked.

Maybe this regime will be different, just like the others were going to be. I'll believe it when they actually are.
Green team bad

Except Darnold who was going to become good if we kept him.

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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #197 on: December 09, 2021, 08:52:52 AM »
Green team bad

Except Darnold who was going to become good if we kept him.

I'm sorry, are you saying that the green team is in fact well run and successful?
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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #198 on: December 09, 2021, 08:59:13 AM »
I'm sorry, are you saying that the green team is in fact well run and successful?

Do you still think that Sam Darnold is good?
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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #199 on: December 09, 2021, 09:04:29 AM »
Do you still think that Sam Darnold is good?
I still think that with semi competent coaching and development he would have been. Which is my point every time we have this conversation - it doesn't matter where or who we draft if we don't develop them properly, which we consistently don't.
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« Reply #200 on: December 09, 2021, 09:05:45 AM »
I still think that with semi competent coaching and development he would have been. Which is my point every time we have this conversation - it doesn't matter where or who we draft if we don't develop them properly, which we consistently don't.

Yes, but do you still think that he's good right now?  Or can he ever become good? 

Because Carolina traded for him, gave him a top supporting cast, a great offensive mind, and he stunk.  The OC got fired and the skill players got better with an XFL QB.

You wanted to keep Darnold.  He was clearly done.  If we would've kept him, we'd be much worse off. 
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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #201 on: December 09, 2021, 09:29:36 AM »
I love watching JE die on this hill.  It gets more hilarious every time.
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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #202 on: December 09, 2021, 09:43:00 AM »
I'm sorry, are you saying that the green team is in fact well run and successful?
Nothing is stopping the team from being well run and successful.

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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #203 on: December 09, 2021, 09:52:23 AM »
Yes, but do you still think that he's good right now?  Or can he ever become good? 

Because Carolina traded for him, gave him a top supporting cast, a great offensive mind, and he stunk.  The OC got fired and the skill players got better with an XFL QB.

You wanted to keep Darnold.  He was clearly done.  If we would've kept him, we'd be much worse off.
I'm not sure if you're deliberately trying to make my point for me here. The chances of him becoming good are fading, because his formative years were a clusterfuck and teams are less inclined to invest time and effort in fixing someone else's mistakes when they don't have the luxury of a rookie contract.

Or are you trying to say that you knew all along that he'd struggle?
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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #204 on: December 09, 2021, 09:52:58 AM »
Nothing is stopping the team from being well run and successful.
....and yet here we are, a decade or more into being neither of those things. So clearly something is.
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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #205 on: December 09, 2021, 10:01:17 AM »
I'm not sure if you're deliberately trying to make my point for me here. The chances of him becoming good are fading, because his formative years were a clusterfuck and teams are less inclined to invest time and effort in fixing someone else's mistakes when they don't have the luxury of a rookie contract.

Or are you trying to say that you knew all along that he'd struggle?

I’m saying that I knew he stunk last season and it was time to move on.

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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #206 on: December 09, 2021, 10:11:35 AM »
I’m saying that I knew he stunk last season and it was time to move on.
Congratulations. It has absolutely nothing to do with my point though.
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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #207 on: December 09, 2021, 11:00:53 AM »
Congratulations. It has absolutely nothing to do with my point though.

Were you not upset when we traded Sam Darnold? 
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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #208 on: December 09, 2021, 11:10:33 AM »
Congratulations. It has absolutely nothing to do with my point though.

I have yet to find a Jets fan that doesn’t agree with your point that Sam very well could have been a special QB. We didn’t give him what he needed to grow. Now he’s fucked beyond all recognition.
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Re: Assorted 2022 NFL Mock Drafts
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