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Re: Zach to the Future
« Reply #600 on: September 23, 2021, 11:12:40 AM »
How is it any different with Lawrence struggling or Wilson struggling?

Because everything and everyone made a huge deal about the Jets winning a few meaningless games and missing out on the greatest QB prospect of all time.

Imagine how we'd all feel if we lucked our way into the greatest QB prospect of all time, and he starts the season as a historically bad 1st overall pick.

It's 2 games, so there's nothing to be made about Wilson or Lawrence. I get it. But I think it's a safe assumption that Jaguars fans are way more miserable than us right now

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Re: Zach to the Future
« Reply #601 on: September 23, 2021, 11:40:05 AM »
Because everything and everyone made a huge deal about the Jets winning a few meaningless games and missing out on the greatest QB prospect of all time.

Imagine how we'd all feel if we lucked our way into the greatest QB prospect of all time, and he starts the season as a historically bad 1st overall pick.

It's 2 games, so there's nothing to be made about Wilson or Lawrence. I get it. But I think it's a safe assumption that Jaguars fans are way more miserable than us right now
I still fail to see how it makes any difference whatsoever. Both the Jets and Jaguars drafted quarterbacks to be their franchise guys. Doesn't matter who went 1st or 2nd anymore. Both have struggled, but it's 2 games so it's mostly meaningless for now.

Jaguars fans may be more miserable because the coach looks worse, but the QB situation is the same.

If you want to argue that we feel better as Jets fans that Lawrence doesn't look like an instant star, that's probably correct. But I don't understand the point you're making.

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Re: Zach to the Future
« Reply #602 on: September 23, 2021, 12:33:21 PM »
NFL fans have just lost their damn minds. 

Rookies, especially QBs on bad teams, usually struggle. 

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Re: Zach to the Future
« Reply #603 on: September 23, 2021, 12:36:24 PM »


It's 2 games, so there's nothing to be made about Wilson or Lawrence. I get it. But I think it's a safe assumption that Jaguars fans are way more miserable than us right now

Based on the Jags fans I've interacted with online they deserve it tbh.

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Re: Zach to the Future
« Reply #604 on: September 23, 2021, 01:37:59 PM »
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Zach Wilson is dealing with a minor groin injury. He will be a full participant today and will play. Saleh is not worried. #Jets

It's being reported that the injury happened in week 1.

So now we can all use the Zach was playing injured against New England excuse

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Re: Zach to the Future
« Reply #605 on: September 23, 2021, 02:53:29 PM »
It's being reported that the injury happened in week 1.

So now we can all use the Zach was playing injured against New England excuse
Good, just like we retroactively gave Darnold the mono excuse against Buffalo.

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Re: Zach to the Future
« Reply #606 on: September 24, 2021, 10:00:05 AM »
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Zach Wilson threw 5 completions for 20+ yards against the Panthers defense

Jameis Winston and Davis Mills threw 3 — combined.
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Re: Zach to the Future
« Reply #607 on: September 24, 2021, 10:10:08 AM »
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Zach Wilson threw 5 completions for 20+ yards against the Panthers defense

Jameis Winston and Davis Mills threw 3 — combined.

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Re: Zach to the Future
« Reply #608 on: September 27, 2021, 10:36:54 AM »
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Zach Wilson's average time to either get a pass off or for the pocket to collapse is 1.7 seconds.

He's been sacked 15 times (most in NFL), Hurried 14 times (2nd most in NFL) Pressured 33 times (most in NFL) - His pressure % is 27% (2nd most among 3 game starters)

Seems like not a great way to develop a QB. We already tried this with Darnold and it didn’t work.
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Re: Zach to the Future
« Reply #609 on: September 27, 2021, 10:37:35 AM »
Seems like not a great way to develop a QB. We already tried this with Darnold and it didn’t work.
Maybe they thought they didn't do it enough with Darnold.

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Re: Zach to the Future
« Reply #610 on: September 27, 2021, 01:16:19 PM »
Seems like not a great way to develop a QB. We already tried this with Darnold and it didn’t work.

We tried it with Sanchez too.

Third time's a charm, clearly.
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Re: Zach to the Future
« Reply #611 on: September 27, 2021, 01:20:30 PM »
We tried it with Sanchez too.

Third time's a charm, clearly.

That's not really true. We gave Sanchez an elite line and a punishing run game for the first two years of his career. By the time we lost a couple of players and replaced them with slightly less good pieces (or in the case of Wayne Hunter, completely wastes of space) it was reasonably expected that Sanchez might have got a bit better at reading the field and the game, and being responsible with the ball.
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Re: Zach to the Future
« Reply #612 on: September 27, 2021, 02:22:38 PM »
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Through three games, #Jets QB Zach Wilson is completing 55.2 percent of his passes. That is not good.

His adjusted completion percentage, which takes into account drops & things of that nature, is 70.4% (!)

Jets, yet again, failing to help young QB. Wilson also sacked 15 times

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Re: Zach to the Future
« Reply #613 on: September 27, 2021, 02:30:32 PM »
What other things besides drops?

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Re: Zach to the Future
« Reply #614 on: September 27, 2021, 02:34:56 PM »
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70% is a great completion percentage, but without context this means excrement.

Unless someone on here masturbates to PFF (or whoever makes this statistic) 70% means nothing.

That could be the best adjusted completion percentage in the league, or ranked 32nd.

Just for some context there's 25 QBs with an actual completion percentage over 67%.

So my guess is that yes Zach has gotten hit by drops worse than most, even with this adjusted fantasy statistic he would very likely still be bottom 3 in the NFL in completion %

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