The Saga of Deshaun Watson

[CatoTheElder]

I can sort of understand not wanting to cave so other players don't get the same idea.  But there comes a point where you have to think of what the situation is now, not what it was.

They would only have to worry about that if they continue to be a complete POS of an organization?

[Johnny English]

https://twitter.com/DanGrazianoESPN/status/1365029931055464461?s=20

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1365042560809467904

Tom Pelissero: The #Texans remain unwilling to discuss QB Deshaun Watson with other teams, some of whom have resorted to leaving voicemails with trade offers, per sources.

Watson spoke briefly to coach David Culley recently, but the two still haven’t met in person. Houston not budging.

[CatoTheElder]

Houston is just committing to paying too much to being a excrement team. I'm not opposed to this.

[reuben]

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports "no one believes" Deshaun Watson will be traded.

That's via sources "knee deep" in the situation. Rapsheet appears to be referring to teams that might be interested in acquiring the elite young quarterback. Rapoport also reports the Texans do not view either the start of free agency or the draft as "any sort of deadline." Rapsheet believes the drama will last for a "very, very long time." That is consistent with the established facts, as each side continues to dig in, both out in the open and via leaks.

[Libero_2]

At some point it will end and Houston will cave. When that happens they are going to take a far inferior offer to what’s on the table right now because so many teams will have moved on

[Derek Smalls]

At some point it will end and Houston will cave. When that happens they are going to take a far inferior offer to what’s on the table right now because so many teams will have moved on

It's not just that. If you do it before the draft, you can guarantee the #2 pick in the draft, for instance.

If they trade him in August, you can't guarantee that, and in fact, you're likely getting a late pick because you're getting the 1st-rd pick of the team with Deshaun Watson at QB.

[Coach K]

The problem is that you're attempting to use logic and facts to predict what complete lunatics will do. Caserio will do what McNair tells him to, which is whatever Easterby has told McNair he should do.

So....

What Jesus tells Easterby?

[Johnny English]

So....

What Jesus tells Easterby?

If that is the case then we can definitively stop talking about Watson as a Jet, because I think we all know by now that if there is a god then he and his entire family have no interest in allowing anything good to happen to the Jets.

[dcm1602]

It's not just that. If you do it before the draft, you can guarantee the #2 pick in the draft, for instance.

If they trade him in August, you can't guarantee that, and in fact, you're likely getting a late pick because you're getting the 1st-rd pick of the team with Deshaun Watson at QB.

Gonna assume that I already know the answer to this

But why donr teams use conditional trades more to account for this (the uncertainty of future draft picks). I feel like when they're used it's usually by some hit-or-miss measure (ie a player is extended, or isn't crippled)

Ie we will give you next years 1st round pick, and if it's not in the top 20 we will also give you our 2nd round pick?
 
It seems like this is a very simply solution that would reduce uncertainty and risks of trades, especially ones where a significant portion of the value comes from an unknown future draft pick

[Laxin]

Watson's side may have to be more aggressive with how they approach this than just "I demand a trade" for something to get done

[MBGreen]

Watson's side may have to be more aggressive with how they approach this than just "I demand a trade" for something to get done

I think this will happen.   I expect some fireworks from the Watson camp when FA rolls around in the middle of March.

[insanity]

Gonna assume that I already know the answer to this

But why donr teams use conditional trades more to account for this (the uncertainty of future draft picks). I feel like when they're used it's usually by some hit-or-miss measure (ie a player is extended, or isn't crippled)

Ie we will give you next years 1st round pick, and if it's not in the top 20 we will also give you our 2nd round pick?
 
It seems like this is a very simply solution that would reduce uncertainty and risks of trades, especially ones where a significant portion of the value comes from an unknown future draft pick

Timeliness in the nfl are short and team growth/player development takes time.  Teams want immediate compensation

[d sw0rdz]

Watson's side may have to be more aggressive with how they approach this than just "I demand a trade" for something to get done

he can start antonio brown-ing this if he wants to but i don't think he'd ever lower himself to doing that

[Coach K]

he can start antonio brown-ing this if he wants to but i don't think he'd ever lower himself to doing that

Bart Scott said he needs to show up and throw the ball out of bounds on slant routes and show them they will get nothing and have to pay him lol

He cited Brandon Marshall literally swatting down passes from Cutler in practice  to get out of DEN

[Heismanberg]

https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1365399865409351686?s=20

Houston cut their center to save some money.  Great idea.