The Saga of Deshaun Watson

[MBGreen]

If that's the side you want to be on, by all means have at it.

You not understanding isn't picking sides....

[dcm1602]

If that's the side you want to be on, by all means have at it.

I mean youre paraphrasing Italian Seafood...

[Heismanberg]

we have a GM that puts a premium on building through the draft.

We should just stockpile our picks and then wait for the next opportunity to tank. 

Quinn Ewers is likely the next generational QB prospect.  He'll be draft eligible in 2024. 

[Coach K]

Seems it's just me and Heismanberg on the freak yo draft value couch tip

I've laid my argument out plenty in the  LOLTexans thread.

My stance is obvious lol

[MBGreen]

We should just stockpile our picks and then wait for the next opportunity to tank. 

Quinn Ewers is likely the next generational QB prospect.  He'll be draft eligible in 2024. 

lmao...you're making this out like it's my issue.  You should give Florham Park a call and ask JD directly to change his philosphy, i'm sure that "durrr future draft picks are worth nothing" argument will go far with him.

[Coach K]

We can circle jerk in the draft forum forever

We traded assets hoping Darnold wpuld be half of Watson


Ozzie Newsome himself couldn't make better use of this capital . Otherwise the best QB they've had in 20 years Wouldn't be Joe ficking Flacco or a past his prime McNair (RIP)

[Heismanberg]

You not understanding isn't picking sides....

How am I not understanding?  You want to haggle the price of an elite quarterback.  We have never seen a player this good become available through trade and we are at the front of the line to get him.

You want to hold on to future draft picks (that will likely be very late first and second round picks) and you don't even know the next man up in college football until I talk about them. 

[Heismanberg]

When we pick Justin Fields at 2, I'll just say I told ya so. 

[Coach K]

If JD let's his ego get in the way of getting a deal done I will certainly question him until we can agree we have a franchise QB

And I'd love to be wrong or right

Just solve this position .

[Coach K]

When we pick Justin Fields at 2, I'll just say I told ya so.

I'll be switching my avatar immediately

[bojanglesman]

I think we can get it done without giving 4 first rounders.  Maybe 3 1sts and other lesser picks.  It would be nice to keep one of the 1sts next year.  I'm assuming a minimum of 3 1sts.

I don't really know what my limit would be, but that doesn't matter anyway because my last name isn't Douglas.

I just can't figure out how a lot of these teams besides the Jets and Dolphins could even compete for him.  What the hell are the Panthers going to give the Texans?  The only things I can see if maybe throwing in some elite players, but that isn't going to help the Texans because they are over the cap.  Or maybe one of these teams just decides to go full-on and give up 1sts for the next 4 years. 

The Texans need a bunch of draft picks in the next 2 years and cheap players.  There are only 2 teams that can do that.

[dcm1602]

Who's the top prospect in 2022?  Who's the top prospect in 2023? 

You numbskulls can go Google it.  I know the answer.  They aren't better than Deshaun Watson. 

I don't know if you know how injuries work.

For the sake of arguing let's just pretend you're right, and that Watson is better than the next 5 1st round draft picks we would have.

Hes one dude. You're putting all your chips on him not getting injured, not retiring.

Hell this freaking dude is leaving the Texans because of social injustice issues. Is there any possibility that anything could go wrong with him being on a team owned by a dude who worked for freaking Trump the last 4 years?

excrement happens and there is a risk cost associated with it.

[MBGreen]

How am I not understanding?  You want to haggle the price of an elite quarterback.  We have never seen a player this good become available through trade and we are at the front of the line to get him.

You want to hold on to future draft picks (that will likely be very late first and second round picks) and you don't even know the next man up in college football until I talk about them. 

Fine...i'm telling you JD isn't going to bend over and his spread his cheeks no matter how badly you want to do it for him.  It's just not going to happen.  And if it did, it would be a complete 180 from his MO.

My personal opinion....i think 3 first rounders and Quinnen Williams gets it done (i've gone on record saying this in another thread).  And i think that's hefty, yet reasonable price to pay.

[Heismanberg]

I don't know if you know how injuries work.

I know you don't know how anything works. 

[Heismanberg]

We shouldn't draft, sign, or trade for any players because they could get injured.  Let's just fold the franchise.