Robert Saleh: Leader of Meh

[MBGreen]

Well you're optimistic.

Yesterday hurt.

[SixFeetDeep]

Ain't going to happen if Rodger's has to thing up or down the decision.

Woody isn’t going to buy off on that either. He was fully part of the Rodgers recruitment plan.

[Derek Smalls]

My thoughts on Saleh are kind of where they were on mid-late Rex. Seems like he's a good defensive coach and has done a great job developing players on that side. His in-game management is very inconsistent. Hard to know how to break down the pie chart of blame for the offensive issues.

I am fine giving Saleh a chance with Rodgers. I want to see how he looks with a better QB. I also wanted to see Rex with a better QB, but that never happened, and his coaching flaws became more and more apparent as the years went on.

[Heismanberg]

I agree ideally I would want an offensive coach next.

HARBAUGH SZN

[Coach K]

HARBAUGH SZN

Harbaugh didn't steal enough signals , how can we expect to score without cheating - 2025 Jets Fan

[AlioTheFool]

I quoted your point after you said "my point all along," but sure, it's cherry picking. That was one of the funniest things I've read on this board all year, so I wanted to call attention to it.

There is a chasm between Aaron Rodgers and Zach Wilson. There are a lot of teams with beat up offensive lines and mediocre skill talent. Every other team finds a way to score touchdowns. Every other team finds a way. Lawrence Cager has more touchdowns than the Jets this month.

I agree with your 2nd paragraph.

Zach's not good enough to raise up the guys around him. He needs others to at least be competent to do his job competently. And while I don't want to go speaking for others, I can say this has been my point all along.

You cherry-picked a sentence at the tail end of the paragraph and now you're implying that was my point? Despite me saying that the first two sentences were my point?

I still maintain that Rodgers would struggle with this unit. Would he have won last night? With the same conditions Zach had? I think so. But overall, he'd be struggling with this team, and he'd be staring up at the clouds more often than not at the end of plays.

[Derek Smalls]

I dont expect him to play like MVP Rodgers, especially now. But he would be a significant upgrade when healthy.

[AlioTheFool]

I dont expect him to play like MVP Rodgers, especially now. But he would be a significant upgrade when healthy.

Is Rodgers a much better QB than Zach? Absolutely. I don't think you're going to find a single argument against that.

But to be an upgrade, he has to be able to perform. Behind this line, with a supporting cast of pass-droppers, backs that run like it's 2 foot deep mud, and clowns committing brain dead penalties, it's hard to imagine he'd have significantly more success. 4 plays in is ridiculous, but I find it hard to imagine he'd have remained healthy all year on this team.

My argument against Zach is that he can't raise up guys around him, and Rodgers is the opposite. But it's hard to do that from your derriere, which he'd be on a lot with this team.

Anyway, I didn't want to get into a big argument about this. I don't think any of us would rather Zach be out there than Rodgers--Zach included.

[Jumbo]

Even if you assume Rodgers would be sacked 10% of the time, which would basically be David Carr career level, there's still 90% of plays where Rodgers is getting the ball out instead of Zach. IT would absolutely make a difference.

[CatoTheElder]

Even if you assume Rodgers would be sacked 10% of the time, which would basically be David Carr career level, there's still 90% of plays where Rodgers is getting the ball out instead of Zach. IT would absolutely make a difference.

Yeah, but getting the ball out to what? If he comes back does that all of a sudden make the two or three WRs running routes to the same 2 yard bubble on the field more open?

[SixFeetDeep]

*Runs the supercut video of passes hitting Lazard, GW, Cobb, and Michael Carter directly in the hands and being dropped*

No, Zach has never elevated his teammates. The real conversation this year is why his teammates have struggled so hard to even do the bare minimum for Zach.

[SixFeetDeep]

We don’t really need to continue the conversation of if AR would be an phrase over Zach past this point

[bojanglesman]

Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
Saleh says there will be other personnel changes in addition to Carter. He won't disclose them. #Jets

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[MBGreen]

Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
Saleh says there will be other personnel changes in addition to Carter. He won't disclose them. #Jets

mmmmmm more personnel changes yum yum
gimme more
grrr brap!
tasty in my tum tum

[bojanglesman]

mmmmmm more personnel changes yum yum
gimme more
grrr brap!
tasty in my tum tum

Uzomah's playing time reduced by 1 snap this week, Lazard told to stop messing up or else he'll get the business.   Veteran ping pong day will go away, "I mean it".