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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #900 on: June 27, 2023, 03:43:00 PM »
We could have an expansive space opera universe with multiple brilliant stories if not for the people who can’t get over if the dude that stabbed a bunch of children to death, his best frenemy, or his estrange kids aren’t involved somehow.
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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #901 on: June 27, 2023, 06:43:19 PM »
We could have an expansive space opera universe with multiple brilliant stories if not for the people who can’t get over if the dude that stabbed a bunch of children to death, his best frenemy, or his estrange kids aren’t involved somehow.

We do. It's called Star Trek. Kidding, kind of.

Star Wars is sci-fantasy, not true sci-fi. Jedi are an integral piece of that. Like if Lord of the Rings had no Gandalf, it'd just be Arthurian romance.

Anyway, I don't have an issue with Andor, Mandolorian, etc. Just not interested in watching. My wife and kids watch everything, so my household is doing its part.
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« Reply #902 on: June 27, 2023, 07:10:18 PM »
We do. It's called Star Trek. Kidding, kind of.

Star Wars is sci-fantasy, not true sci-fi. Jedi are an integral piece of that. Like if Lord of the Rings had no Gandalf, it'd just be Arthurian romance.

Anyway, I don't have an issue with Andor, Mandolorian, etc. Just not interested in watching. My wife and kids watch everything, so my household is doing its part.

But don't you think it could be so much richer of a fantasy universe if they weren't so beholden to the story of one Jedi and his pals and family?  I think one of the reasons - if not the main reason - that A Song of Ice and Fire is such a successful fantasy universe is that it's not just a story about dragons vs. icemen.  The dragons might very well be your favorite part, the White Walkers might very well be your favorite part, but when the universe they inhabit is fleshed out and expanded, it makes those parts all the sweeter.

The Star Wars Universe is a friggin' galaxy, but it seems so preposterously small when you can't go from one episode to the next, or one film to the next, without every protagonist bumping into every other protagonist.  It's actually something I really enjoyed about the Netflix Marvel series, hit or miss though they were; outside of an occasional dialogue reference, they let the characters breathe and exist on their own, at least relative to the "main" MCU if not each other.
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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #903 on: June 27, 2023, 07:38:05 PM »
But don't you think it could be so much richer of a fantasy universe if they weren't so beholden to the story of one Jedi and his pals and family?  I think one of the reasons - if not the main reason - that A Song of Ice and Fire is such a successful fantasy universe is that it's not just a story about dragons vs. icemen.  The dragons might very well be your favorite part, the White Walkers might very well be your favorite part, but when the universe they inhabit is fleshed out and expanded, it makes those parts all the sweeter.

The Star Wars Universe is a friggin' galaxy, but it seems so preposterously small when you can't go from one episode to the next, or one film to the next, without every protagonist bumping into every other protagonist.  It's actually something I really enjoyed about the Netflix Marvel series, hit or miss though they were; outside of an occasional dialogue reference, they let the characters breathe and exist on their own, at least relative to the "main" MCU if not each other.

100%

But I think we're talking about two different things here. Personally, my favorite SW story is Darth Bane during the Old Republic.

I'm all in favor of moving past The Skywalker Saga and telling other stories. Especially since they didn't even stick to the post-Vader written material.

But without Jedi, I'm not interested. They can tell great stories including Jedi and Sith.
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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #904 on: June 27, 2023, 07:47:17 PM »
We do. It's called Star Trek. Kidding, kind of.

Star Wars is sci-fantasy, not true sci-fi. Jedi are an integral piece of that. Like if Lord of the Rings had no Gandalf, it'd just be Arthurian romance.

This is such a shallow view of both franchises...like...wtf

Gandalf was only a fixture for the Third Age...
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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #905 on: June 27, 2023, 08:41:53 PM »
This is such a shallow view of both franchises...like...wtf

Gandalf was only a fixture for the Third Age...


I don't understand how thinking Jedi are central to Star Wars is a shallow view of the franchise. The entire original trilogy is about Luke's rise as a Jedi vs. Vader's corruption of it. And practically every novelization and movie prior to the Disney takeover revolved around Jedi and/or Sith characters.

I don't begrudge anyone's enjoyment of stories like Andor/Rogue One or Mandolorian. They just aren't what I want from something that holds the Star Wars brand label. I'm not an e-troll ripping things I don't like and saying it's got to be MY way or NO way. I'm just not going to watch.
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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #906 on: June 27, 2023, 08:56:02 PM »
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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #907 on: August 06, 2023, 09:34:49 PM »
Andor 10/10

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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #908 on: August 06, 2023, 09:39:53 PM »
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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #909 on: August 07, 2023, 07:16:06 AM »

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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #910 on: March 19, 2024, 10:38:58 AM »
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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #911 on: March 19, 2024, 10:51:38 AM »
Just saw this discussion.

Thought I was the only one that gave up on the Mandolorian, it kind of blew.

Rogue One and Andor are the best thing Star Wars related since ESB.

Andor was a great show period.

I am tired of all the formulaic shows, to put it mildly they're terrible - Mandolorian,  Boba Fett etc.
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« Reply #912 on: March 19, 2024, 11:35:08 PM »
Just saw this discussion.

Thought I was the only one that gave up on the Mandolorian, it kind of blew.

Rogue One and Andor are the best thing Star Wars related since ESB.

Andor was a great show period.

I am tired of all the formulaic shows, to put it mildly they're terrible - Mandolorian,  Boba Fett etc.
Why make this instead of Andor season 2?

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« Reply #913 on: March 20, 2024, 01:12:06 AM »
Why make this instead of Andor season 2?

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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #914 on: March 20, 2024, 08:34:22 AM »
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#TheAcolyte details

• Set 100 years before 'The Phantom Menace'
• Didn't use The Volume VFX at all during filming
• Narratively similar to #Andor
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• Pitched as a multi-season show
• Incorporates EU / Legends lore

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