Jets new HC search

[Heismanberg]

Arthur Smith would be a cool hire, but I'm not sure he's "flashy" enough for the Jets unfortunately.

Joe Brady would be fun. 

[Libero_2]

That was a hell of an argument

[insanity]

I dont want a guy who has been an oc for 1.5 seasons. 
This guy is still learning how to manage one aspect of the field

[Johnny English]

I dont want a guy who has been an oc for 1.5 seasons. 
This guy is still learning how to manage one aspect of the field

I completely agree. It's why I didn't want Bieniemy last year and am nervous about him this year. (That and I don't trust coaching trees.)

[Libero_2]

I completely agree. It's why I didn't want Bieniemy last year and am nervous about him this year. (That and I don't trust coaching trees.)

If you don't trust coaching trees, where are you looking to hire a coach from?

[Libero_2]

I dont want a guy who has been an oc for 1.5 seasons. 
This guy is still learning how to manage one aspect of the field

It's been a damn impressive 1.5 years in Tennessee and frankly, he's doing it without a lot of high talent guys. You look at the Chiefs and see there is just so much talent on that offense, it would be hard NOT to be successful. Can Bieniemy lift the level of talent on the Jets offense to be successful? At least with Smith he is getting a lot out of guys that people either thought didn't have it or aren't top notch pieces. Obviously he still has some great players on that offense, and it's not devoid of talent, but he has that group humming without anyone looking at that group and saying "that's a top 3-4 offense based on talent alone"

[CatoTheElder]

Imagine what an offensive genius like Gase could do with the Chiefs' roster.

[Laxin]

It's been a damn impressive 1.5 years in Tennessee and frankly, he's doing it without a lot of high talent guys. You look at the Chiefs and see there is just so much talent on that offense, it would be hard NOT to be successful. Can Bieniemy lift the level of talent on the Jets offense to be successful? At least with Smith he is getting a lot out of guys that people either thought didn't have it or aren't top notch pieces. Obviously he still has some great players on that offense, and it's not devoid of talent, but he has that group humming without anyone looking at that group and saying "that's a top 3-4 offense based on talent alone"

Tennessee’s offense is very talented. They have a very solid OL, one of the best backs in the NFL and two 1st round picks at WR. That’s a hell of a lot more than the Jets have even when completely healthy.

[Johnny English]

If you don't trust coaching trees, where are you looking to hire a coach from?

I trust records more than pedigrees. Someone who has only been an NFL OC under a head coach who is a bona fide offensive genius like Andy Reid? No thanks. Bieniemy might very well turn out to be a great coach but he can go prove it somewhere else, for me. I want a head coach who has already been round the block and knows what he's doing, and knows how to surround himself with great coaching talent. I want a veteran who has proven he knows how to win as a head coach, not someone who has ridden someone else's coat tails to victory.

I'm willing to listen to arguments for proven college head coaches with a long history of success. I don't want another NFL OC proving the Peter Principle once more.

[loyaljetsfan]

I trust records more than pedigrees. Someone who has only been an NFL OC under a head coach who is a bona fide offensive genius like Andy Reid? No thanks. Bieniemy might very well turn out to be a great coach but he can go prove it somewhere else, for me. I want a head coach who has already been round the block and knows what he's doing, and knows how to surround himself with great coaching talent. I want a veteran who has proven he knows how to win as a head coach, not someone who has ridden someone else's coat tails to victory.

I'm willing to listen to arguments for proven college head coaches with a long history of success. I don't want another NFL OC proving the Peter Principle once more.

So who do you want that fits your criteria?

[Libero_2]

So who do you want that fits your criteria?

I'm guessing his list has basically the following guys on it

P.J. Fleck
Lincoln Riley
Jim Harbaugh
Bill Cowher
Dan Quinn (Assuming he gets fired this year)

Some good names for sure, but I can't imagine any of them are coaching the Jets next year, aside from possibly Fleck, who I am not sure how excited I would be about that hire.

[Johnny English]

So who do you want that fits your criteria?

I feel like anyone who doesn't yet know my preferred HC candidates hasn't been paying much attention.

[insanity]

Is Matt Campbell still a thing

[IATA]

pass on harbaugh, he's done nothing to deserve a team since he left the niners

[Heismanberg]

Is Matt Campbell still a thing

no