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Re: Assorted 2021 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #420 on: April 10, 2021, 03:45:26 PM »
Tom Brady chose Tampa because of their receiving corps.

A healthy Mike Evans is a top five receiver in the league.
There are atleast 10 other recievers in the league who are as good as Evans.  Which makes my point that wt is not a premium position

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Re: Assorted 2021 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #421 on: April 10, 2021, 03:50:19 PM »
Larry fitzgerald and Julio Jones dragged their teams to super bowls in the last ten years. Larry nearly won the cardinals that game until Santonio Holmes made one of the greatest circus grabs ever. And we all thought the Falcons were winning that game at the end of the 3rd quarter.

Giving Zach Wilson elite level weapons will help him a ton. It’s arguable how much more it will help him to have a pass rusher or a corner than the upgrade to Chase, but as I said in the other thread I don’t see any value selection for the OLine at 23.

Just because I can, let’s play a scenario game, you tell me which scenario is preferable to you, and which situation you find to be significantly better for Zach Wilson / his development

2. Zach Wilson
23. Greg Newsome
34. Creed Humphrey
66. Jabril Cox

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2. Zach Wilson
23+34. Jamar Chase
66. Trey Smith

Sadly for my side of this arguement, I don’t believe Chase will be in striking distance. I expect him to be off the board by 7.
My point stands as neither of those teams won a superbowl.  Holmes was not an elite #1.  Which also proves my point

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Re: Assorted 2021 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #422 on: April 10, 2021, 03:59:39 PM »
My point stands as neither of those teams won a superbowl.  Holmes was not an elite #1.  Which also proves my point

I didn’t argue Holmes was.

And you can’t be seriously saying the Cardinals and Falcons lost their respective super bowls because of Fitz and Jones. Those teams came extraordinarily close to a ring, seconds for the Cardinals and minutes for thee Falcons.  Which is infinitely closer than we’ve been in 50 years
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Re: Assorted 2021 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #423 on: April 10, 2021, 04:01:00 PM »
There are atleast 10 other recievers in the league who are as good as Evans.  Which makes my point that wt is not a premium position

And we don’t have ANY of those guys you can argue is better than Evans. Hell Corey Davis is now our best WR. Please raise your hand if you want to argue he’s a top 25 receiver? How about top 20? Top 15?

We don’t have an elite guy, thus if one is there, go freaking get him.
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Re: Assorted 2021 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #424 on: April 10, 2021, 04:01:43 PM »
I could get behind this

So it’s cool if we give up 34 for Chase as long as we get back a 5 for Crowder? What if we have to wait a year for the 5, you still cool with that?
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« Reply #425 on: April 10, 2021, 04:40:11 PM »
There are atleast 10 other recievers in the league who are as good as Evans.  Which makes my point that wt is not a premium position

There is not a single receiver in the league with his skillset.

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« Reply #426 on: April 10, 2021, 05:02:15 PM »
Why is Mims being replaced in all of these situations?

Both Corey Davis and any of the top receivers (Chase/Smith/Waddle) can play in the slot.

Jamison Crowder is the odd man out.
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« Reply #427 on: April 10, 2021, 05:19:06 PM »
There's also the possibility that the Jets can use ammo from next year to move up from 23. I wouldn't be opposed to using the picks we got from Darnold to move up to the top 12 or so if Pitts or Chase falls (hell, even Sewell). I would think 23, Carolina's 2nd and maybe pick 66 could get us inside the top 12. I would do that in a heart beat.

Imo, any elite pass catcher is significantly more useful to this team and Wilson's development than a CB or an off ball LB.

I honestly can't believe how many people are scoffing at the idea of needing to surround Wilson with playmakers because the defense has a few holes. This team has spent pretty much the entire previous decade using premium picks on the defense all while ignoring to place talent around Sanchez/Geno(lol)/Darnold. Give me ETN, trade up for Chase or Pitts, draft Toney, whatever scenario plays out... just add talent around the QB.
 

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« Reply #428 on: April 12, 2021, 04:20:31 PM »
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« Reply #429 on: April 12, 2021, 04:22:27 PM »
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Re: Assorted 2021 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #430 on: April 13, 2021, 08:57:58 AM »
Kiper's two round mock:

Zach Wilson
Greg Newsome
Travis Etienne

I see a lot of NYJ fans on Twitter complaining about using 34 on a RB.  Etienne is one of the best receiving backs to enter the NFL in a while.  He is more of a weapon than just a true RB.

It would be a very good pick.
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Re: Assorted 2021 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #431 on: April 13, 2021, 10:24:23 AM »
Kiper's two round mock:

Zach Wilson
Greg Newsome
Travis Etienne

I see a lot of NYJ fans on Twitter complaining about using 34 on a RB.  Etienne is one of the best receiving backs to enter the NFL in a while.  He is more of a weapon than just a true RB.

It would be a very good pick.

I'd be cool with these three players being on the roster.
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Re: Assorted 2021 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #432 on: April 13, 2021, 10:54:31 AM »
Kiper's two round mock:

Zach Wilson
Greg Newsome
Travis Etienne

I see a lot of NYJ fans on Twitter complaining about using 34 on a RB.  Etienne is one of the best receiving backs to enter the NFL in a while.  He is more of a weapon than just a true RB.

It would be a very good pick.

What happened to RB dont matter?

Or are you assuming the OL is addressed immediately after in Rd 3?

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Re: Assorted 2021 NFL Mock Drafts
« Reply #433 on: April 13, 2021, 11:11:51 AM »
What happened to RB dont matter?

Or are you assuming the OL is addressed immediately after in Rd 3?

I think he's more than just a RB.  He can be a receiving threat also.

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« Reply #434 on: April 13, 2021, 11:12:06 AM »
What happened to RB dont matter?

Or are you assuming the OL is addressed immediately after in Rd 3?

Etienne is one of the best pass catchers in the draft, regardless of position.  I'd be okay with drafting him at 34 because he will help the passing game immediately. 

He has the skillset to be a more explosive version of Alvin Kamara. 
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