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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2020, 08:39:17 PM »
While JD has done a commendable job improving the interior line

LT is still a tremendous red flag

The question is what Farts role is here and our plans for both tackle spots
I think it's pretty clear right now the plan for Fant. He gives us a legitimate left tackle in case the draft doesn't go the way we want it to. And if we do draft someone, he can compete with Edoga and the rookie for that spot.

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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2020, 08:44:12 PM »


The question is what Farts role is here and our plans for both tackle spots

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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2020, 08:44:38 PM »
While JD has done a commendable job improving the interior line

LT is still a tremendous red flag

The question is what Farts role is here and our plans for both tackle spots
It sure is which is why Wills/Wirf/Becton/Thomas should be a Jet come late April.  OL's an improved work in progress but still minus the cornerstone to protect Sam's blindside.  Fant's swing/insurance

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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2020, 08:48:09 PM »
I hope we keep Fart just for the name.

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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2020, 09:04:29 PM »
I think it's pretty clear right now the plan for Fant. He gives us a legitimate left tackle in case the draft doesn't go the way we want it to. And if we do draft someone, he can compete with Edoga and the rookie for that spot.

Except he's not a legitimate left tackle

He's a highly capable backup or a project. Whichever tittle you find more fair.

Regardless you're talking about a team whose biggest problem last year was its OL heading into the draft with extremely questionable left and right tackles.

If we sign Beachum I instantly become excited about the OL

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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2020, 09:09:01 PM »
It sure is which is why Wills/Wirf/Becton/Thomas should be a Jet come late April.  OL's an improved work in progress but still minus the cornerstone to protect Sam's blindside.  Fant's swing/insurance

Unfortunately we have 10 teams drafting ahead of us l. And 3 of those names could easily be off the board. The thought of having the 4th best tackle in the draft and two highly questionable players competing for both tackle spots doesn't excite me. Plus I think it's bad practice to go into the draft completely dependant on a certain player falling to you.

I think you need to resign beachum. If an OL falls to us, then great, Fart is cutable in a year if he doesn't work out. If one doesn't. Then we have adequate talent to get through the season and we can go bpa or trade down.

Having to NEED a tackle with the first pick in the draft is just too risky.

I'd also be completely cool with signing Jason Peters to a one year contract. Gives us a little flexibility
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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2020, 09:24:32 PM »
Unfortunately we have 10 teams drafting ahead of us l. And 3 of those names could easily be off the board. The thought of having the 4th best tackle in the draft and two highly questionable players competing for both tackle spots doesn't excite me. Plus I think it's bad practice to go into the draft completely dependant on a certain player falling to you.

I think you need to resign beachum. If an OL falls to us, then great, Fart is cutable in a year if he doesn't work out. If one doesn't. Then we have adequate talent to get through the season and we can go bpa or trade down.

Having to NEED a tackle with the first pick in the draft is just too risky.

I'd also be completely cool with signing Jason Peters to a one year contract. Gives us a little flexibility

I’m fine with any of the top 4 OTs. Without going back to look, they all would probably be the top OT if you dropped one of them into any of the past few drafts.

It is a legitimate concern that all 4 might be gone at 11.

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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2020, 09:30:51 PM »
I went back to look, because of course I did.

Top OT taken:

2019: 11 - Jonah Williams - CIN
2018: 9 - Mike McGlinchy - SF
2017: 20 - Garrett Bolles - DEN

This list makes me want OT at 11 EVEN MORE


FWIW, 2016 had Ronnie Stanley and Jack Conklin top 10


Also, kinda forgot the patriots got stripped of their first rounder for deflategate LOL
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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2020, 09:50:26 PM »
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Sticking with a clear offseason trend for Douglas, GVR, like Fant/McGovern, has position flexibility. Exp at G & C, with ability to kick out & play OT. 

Also a trend: GVR is pretty good in pass protection. 3 total sacks allowed & five QB hits last 2 years (1,144 passing snaps)

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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2020, 09:57:57 PM »
Draft a LT. We have the QB finally, don't freak around, get his LT and be done with it.
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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2020, 10:10:35 PM »
While JD has done a commendable job improving the interior line

LT is still a tremendous red flag

The question is what Farts role is here and our plans for both tackle spots

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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2020, 10:13:08 PM »
dcm talking about the draft and the “4th best” tackle is very irritating
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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2020, 10:39:12 PM »
dcm talking about the draft and the “4th best” tackle is very irritating

I'm not calling draft picks "the lottery"

What I'm saying is we can't control who gets picked in front of us.

Surely you'd agree that having flexibility with your draft picks is superior to needing to draft xyz position with a certain pick.

I'd be thrilled to draft a talented tackle with our first pick. But if we feel theres a superb (whatever) available but NEED a tackle and we're not thrilled about whose available because there was a run on tackles before our pick. Well that's a shitty situation

Maybe I worded it poorly but I'm suggesting I'd rather have flexibility to go BPA/value then to draft on need. And as of right now it looks like we could have to draft on need.

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