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Re: Coronavirus SZN Forever
« Reply #4365 on: September 16, 2021, 08:50:24 AM »
How do you propose Biden and Cuomo overcome the anti-vax sentiment that has been and continues to be propagated almost exclusively by Conservatives?

Any objective look at demographics in terms of who hasn't gotten vaccinated would tell you that Cuomo (who was an abject failure on multiple fronts), and Biden have failed to appeal to their own constituency on that front.

Lets just be real here, Biden had no plan whatsoever.

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Re: Coronavirus SZN Forever
« Reply #4366 on: September 16, 2021, 08:57:07 AM »
The vaccines are doing their job quite well.  Preventing major illness and death.  Breakthrough cases happen, but are nowhere near the problem unvaccinated people are.  I don't think the problem is normal healthy adults needing a 3rd vaccine.  That isn't the reason hospitals are clogged.  The issue is getting unvaccinated people vaccinated.  I can't fathom why health care workers aren't mandated to get vaccinated or why they wouldn't want to be.

3rd vaccines should be available now for old people and immunocompromised people.   

It's not the reason hospitals are clogged but it's contributing

My sample sizes aren't statistically relevant, but I've seen the average age of covid patients get way way younger.

And let's be honest, less than half of adults are normal healthy adults
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Re: Coronavirus SZN Forever
« Reply #4367 on: September 16, 2021, 09:04:14 AM »
It's not the reason hospitals are clogged but it's contributing

My sample sizes aren't statistically relevant, but I've seen the average age of covid patients get way way younger.

And let's be honest, less than half of adults are normal healthy adults

Fair enough.

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« Reply #4368 on: September 16, 2021, 09:11:22 AM »
Fair enough.

Not to mention that reminds me that Americans have been neglecting seeing their PCPs the last 2 years. People's underlying health problems are being underdiagnosed and undertreated.

My freaking PCP is booked up through March. Americans health ain't good

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Re: Coronavirus SZN Forever
« Reply #4369 on: September 16, 2021, 09:18:13 AM »
Any objective look at demographics in terms of who hasn't gotten vaccinated would tell you that Cuomo (who was an abject failure on multiple fronts), and Biden have failed to appeal to their own constituency on that front.

Lets just be real here, Biden had no plan whatsoever.

Just as one simple and recent example of my point:

https://twitter.com/DrEricBall/status/1438150971721273351

The correlation between vaccine refusal and voting Conservative is overwhelmingly in evidence on both a micro and macro scale. A massively smaller subset of left leaning voters also being reality defying fuckwits does not make this an "all people same" situation.

How do you propose Biden, or indeed Trump had he won a second term, get that massive bloc of Conservative antivax plague rats to do what they should have done months ago?
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Re: Coronavirus SZN Forever
« Reply #4370 on: September 16, 2021, 09:22:36 AM »
https://twitter.com/nickiminaj/status/1438248319650656256?s=21

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Re: Coronavirus SZN Forever
« Reply #4371 on: September 16, 2021, 09:25:24 AM »


I just think it makes no sense to not get it done before things really freaking explode, we get into the flu season and holidays, and things look real dire and then suddenly have a mad dash of urgency.

This just reminded me I'm almost due for my flu shot.

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Re: Coronavirus SZN Forever
« Reply #4372 on: September 16, 2021, 09:28:45 AM »
Expectation is tomorrow and next week respectively the fda and cdc are expected to approve the booster for Pfizer only

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Re: Coronavirus SZN Forever
« Reply #4373 on: September 16, 2021, 09:28:48 AM »

This just reminded me I'm almost due for my flu shot.

I've never had one, but I'm probably going to start now.
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Re: Coronavirus SZN Forever
« Reply #4374 on: September 16, 2021, 09:29:31 AM »


Lets just be real here, Biden had no plan whatsoever.

Yes, along with everyone else who says lockdowns aren't an option anymore.

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Re: Coronavirus SZN Forever
« Reply #4375 on: September 16, 2021, 09:29:44 AM »
So which number is higher for unvaccinated people, Republicans or black/brown people?  I can't find that stat anywhere.

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Re: Coronavirus SZN Forever
« Reply #4376 on: September 16, 2021, 09:30:25 AM »
So which number is higher for unvaccinated people, Republicans or black/brown people?  I can't find that stat anywhere.

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Re: Coronavirus SZN Forever
« Reply #4377 on: September 16, 2021, 09:31:05 AM »
I've never had one, but I'm probably going to start now.
I didn't start until I was about to have kids. Snapped me out of the "I'm young and healthy, what's the worst that could happen?" attitude.

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Re: Coronavirus SZN Forever
« Reply #4378 on: September 16, 2021, 09:31:30 AM »
So which number is higher for unvaccinated people, Republicans or black/brown people?  I can't find that stat anywhere.
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Re: Coronavirus SZN Forever
« Reply #4379 on: September 16, 2021, 09:34:18 AM »
I didn't start until I was about to have kids. Snapped me out of the "I'm young and healthy, what's the worst that could happen?" attitude.

I never bothered because I'm lazy, but this whole thing has brought home the importance of vaccinations to protect others. At least it has for people who have been paying attention.
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