Coronavirus SZN Forever

[Jumbo]

https://twitter.com/Alicia_Smith19/status/1247140405826682885

[Miamipuck]

https://twitter.com/Alicia_Smith19/status/1247140405826682885

That's good news but anyone reading the numbers they were using could see they were a tad high.

By a tad, I mean really freaking high.

[IATA]

Animals can now get Coronavirus

it started in animals

[SixFeetDeep]

it started in animals

It had to go through a mutation to transfer to humans, and then another mutation for human to human transmission

Not sure about human to animal transmission but seems like it would go through the same process

[ScotlandJet]

Hope you guys are staying safe and well. Due to this  lock down I will probably die of alcoholism before the Virus but you already knew this.

Please retain for posterity - I miss work!

[Miamipuck]

Hope you guys are staying safe and well. Due to this  lock down I will probably die of alcoholism before the Virus but you already knew this.

Please retain for posterity - I miss work!

You probably miss tailgates too but hey at least that choice was 100% voluntary.

[AlioTheFool]

It had to go through a mutation to transfer to humans, and then another mutation for human to human transmission

Not sure about human to animal transmission but seems like it would go through the same process

What makes me nervous is that it originated in bats, mutated to transfer to humans, then mutated to transfer to tigers. All mammals, but all distinct species. The question to me is: how many times can this thing mutate? After it has lived within tigers, could it return to humans in a different form?

[Johnny English]

What makes me nervous is that it originated in bats, mutated to transfer to humans, then mutated to transfer to tigers. All mammals, but all distinct species. The question to me is: how many times can this thing mutate? After it has lived within tigers, could it return to humans in a different form?

I don't believe that SFD is quite correct; it didn't mutate to crossover, it's just that it doesn't impact bats in the same way. Just like dogs can eat raw chicken without worrying about getting salmonella, so bats can carry a virus that impacts us differently to how it impacts them, if at all.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/19/health/coronavirus-human-actions-intl/index.html

It's just that a) humans don't come into very much contact with bats, and b) given the relative size of a bat it's rather more difficult for it to carry and transfer the viral load necessary to infect an animal the size of a human. If it actually started with bats, which seems to be a matter of some uncertainty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/how-did-covid-19-begin-its-initial-origin-story-is-shaky/2020/04/02/1475d488-7521-11ea-87da-77a8136c1a6d_story.html

[CatoTheElder]

At White House briefing, @realDonaldTrump says 1,000 military personnel are deploying to NYC at his direction, though not immediately clear where/how they'll be utilized.

That’s roughly the military crew of the Comfort, to include both hospital and support staff.

[AlioTheFool]

I don't believe that SFD is quite correct; it didn't mutate to crossover, it's just that it doesn't impact bats in the same way. Just like dogs can eat raw chicken without worrying about getting salmonella, so bats can carry a virus that impacts us differently to how it impacts them, if at all.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/19/health/coronavirus-human-actions-intl/index.html

It's just that a) humans don't come into very much contact with bats, and b) given the relative size of a bat it's rather more difficult for it to carry and transfer the viral load necessary to infect an animal the size of a human. If it actually started with bats, which seems to be a matter of some uncertainty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/how-did-covid-19-begin-its-initial-origin-story-is-shaky/2020/04/02/1475d488-7521-11ea-87da-77a8136c1a6d_story.html

I don't know. I'm basing my thinking off an article about a Chinese scientist who has been studying bats for years. Her position is that bats are a breeding ground for diseases that could infect humans. I don't recall where I read it though, it was a couple of weeks ago now.

What you're saying makes sense though. And it also might explain why "just" tigers in the zoo are infected, rather than every animal the caretaker had come in contact with.

[Johnny English]

I don't know. I'm basing my thinking off an article about a Chinese scientist who has been studying bats for years. Her position is that bats are a breeding ground for diseases that could infect humans.

For sure, I can believe that. But the disease can't impact them the same way, otherwise you would expect that either they would have all died off from it or they would have developed a herd immunity and the disease would have died out.

[reuben]

[Jumbo]

Boris Johnson now in intensive care

[Johnny English]

Boris Johnson now in intensive care

The only shame of it is that he's not having to contend with everyone else for the resources that he failed to provide.

[SixFeetDeep]

I don't believe that SFD is quite correct; it didn't mutate to crossover, it's just that it doesn't impact bats in the same way. Just like dogs can eat raw chicken without worrying about getting salmonella, so bats can carry a virus that impacts us differently to how it impacts them, if at all.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/19/health/coronavirus-human-actions-intl/index.html

It's just that a) humans don't come into very much contact with bats, and b) given the relative size of a bat it's rather more difficult for it to carry and transfer the viral load necessary to infect an animal the size of a human. If it actually started with bats, which seems to be a matter of some uncertainty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/how-did-covid-19-begin-its-initial-origin-story-is-shaky/2020/04/02/1475d488-7521-11ea-87da-77a8136c1a6d_story.html

A study from The Scripps Research Institute found two possible sources of coronavirus, which may explain the emergence of the initial wave of COVID-19 cases in November 2019, prior to the cluster of cases that emerged in the Wuhan seafood market.

The researchers identified the two origins to be: natural selection in an animal host before zoonotic transfer and natural selection in humans following zoonotic (animal-to-human) transfer.

The first origin—mutation in an animal host—would mean that a form of virus mutated within wild animals in the likes of bats and pangolins before spreading to humans.

In this scenario, humans got in direct contact with animals that had mutated viruses within them, causing the first animal to human transmission to occur.

The second scenario—natural selection in humans following zoonotic transfer—suggests that a lesser form of coronavirus may have transferred from a bat or a pangolin to a human body, and the virus mutated within humans afterward.

As the virus started to mutate, it also began to transmit from humans to humans, causing the outbreak to start.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9