Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?

[Italian Seafood]

Might I remind you, we lost to TWO winless teams last year. T-W-O

That's my point. Wins are wins in the NFL, nothing is a given.

[loyaljetsfan]

Lol, what.

Kotite is the worst coach in the history of the franchise until this team actually goes 0-16.

It's more than just the record...it's how you play.

If you look at some of those games during the 1-15 season...we were competitive. Our offensive rankings were middle of the pack.

This team is pure excrement, uncompetitive, and offense is a dumpster fire.

[MBGreen]

I love how the desolation of the Gase era has sparked a debate about Rich freaking Kotite.  lol

[loyaljetsfan]

1996 Jets Offensive Rankings:
Total Yards: 11th
Passing Yards: 10th
Rushing Yards: 23rd
Points Scored:27th

This team isn't going to come close to any of these

[Heismanberg]

Comparing 1996 offensive numbers to 2020 is a bit much.

The game is completely different now.

[MBGreen]

Comparing 1996 offensive numbers to 2020 is a bit much.

The game is completely different now.

Offense was tougher to play because defenders could get away with alot more back then.  Which makes this look even worse for Gase.

[Heismanberg]

Offense was tougher to play because defenders could get away with alot more back then.  Which makes this look even worse for Gase.

It's a moot comparison.

Kotite and Gase both stink. 

Comparing offensive numbers for different eras is pointless. 

[MBGreen]

It's a moot comparison.

Kotite and Gase both stink. 

Comparing offensive numbers for different eras is pointless. 

Other than stricter penalties, more passing/less running, and moar flags being thrown....offense hasn't changed much.

But i agree, comparing futility is depressing and pointless.  I hate this team right now.

[Heismanberg]

Other than stricter penalties, more passing/less running, and moar flags being thrown....offense hasn't changed much.

The Air Raid and the spread offense have completely changed offensive football. 

[MBGreen]

The Air Raid and the spread offense have completely changed offensive football. 

don't forget about the oopty-oop

[Libero_2]

It's a moot comparison.

Kotite and Gase both stink. 

Comparing offensive numbers for different eras is pointless. 

At least he didn’t throw yardage totals up, he was giving league ranks. That’s at least something that could be discussed across eras.

[SixFeetDeep]

The Air Raid and the spread offense have completely changed offensive football. 

Gase should try that stuff out instead of the 1980s offense

[d sw0rdz]

Comparing 1996 offensive numbers to 2020 is a bit much.

The game is completely different now.

i think comparing raw totals/averages for one team against the other makes no sense, but the rankings at least give an idea of how each team did stacked up against the rest of the nfl taking in the climate/trends of each respective era.

i don't think anybody would ever argue that kotite would do better than gase in this era or vice versa, just that kotite's team rankings against the rest of the league during his era stacked up better than gase's genius of a generation offensive mind-guru's rankings in his own era.

[insanity]

Comparing 1996 offensive numbers to 2020 is a bit much.

The game is completely different now.

Comparing statistics, sure, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with comparing their rankings

[AlioTheFool]

I agree that you can't really compare two eras, nevermind rankings

I'm disgusted that we're talking about any coach in the same breath as Rich Kotite. He was far and away the worst coach in the history of the franchise. No one was even close. If you asked the fans of every team in the NFL who they considered the worst coach in the history of their franchise, there might be some debate with other teams. With Kotite, it was an auto-response from Jets fans.

Not anymore