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Re: #Blessuaned
« Reply #60 on: November 27, 2019, 12:42:41 PM »
You have to also wonder if the Austin pick was all Maccagnan. We don't know if Gregg Williams had any say in the pick.

It may also be valid that Bowles and his staff sucked at development, but how many guys Maccagnan drafted are even still on active rosters?
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Re: #Blessuaned
« Reply #61 on: November 27, 2019, 12:45:23 PM »
Nice to have a starter come from late in the draft. Imagine how gangsta this defense would be if Tru Johnson wasn’t a bag of excrement, our LB were healthy, and we find a decent pass rusher in FA/Draft

I've thought about this a lot. Imagine if Williamson and Mosley were healthy all year? This defense could've been so much better.
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Re: #Blessuaned
« Reply #62 on: November 27, 2019, 03:04:00 PM »
Idzik and Mac would have made quite a combo together. Mac had some solid drafts and Idzik knew how to pinch pennies with the best.
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« Reply #63 on: November 27, 2019, 05:32:20 PM »
Austin looks like he actually belongs. Some seriously impressive play from him today..or maybe my bar has been set really low after watching the crap they have trotted out on the field at CB.

Just for context this was against the possibility worst offense in the league. Longest streak without a td in 20 years

One of us was right, and of us was wrong.

Apparently he's PFF's top graded corner in the NFL over the last three weeks.

DCM was wrong. But just for context, this was against the possibility worst poster in the history. Longest streak without a coherent or logical post in 20 years
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Re: #Blessuaned
« Reply #64 on: November 27, 2019, 06:01:49 PM »
Pray his ACL holds up.
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« Reply #65 on: November 27, 2019, 09:12:27 PM »

DCM was wrong. But just for context, this was against the possibility worst poster in the history. Longest streak without a coherent or logical post in 20 years

We're not going to be able to pay dcm and Puck both next year.
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Re: #Blessuaned
« Reply #66 on: November 28, 2019, 03:54:02 AM »
Blessy Thanksgiving y'all.

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« Reply #67 on: December 17, 2019, 06:02:38 PM »
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Re: #Blessuaned
« Reply #68 on: December 17, 2019, 06:03:59 PM »
Yeah, some of Maccagnan's draftees are starting to look pretty decent. You start to wonder how many of his failures (outside of Hackenberg) were him making excrement picks, and how many were down to Bowles and his staff freaking them up.

This argument doesn’t hold up, most of Duff’s draft picks arent in the league anymore if they aren’t on the Jets. If they weren’t excrement picks they would have jobs on another team.
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Re: #Blessuaned
« Reply #69 on: December 17, 2019, 07:48:50 PM »
Bless is the new PFF Brandon Shell. 

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« Reply #70 on: December 18, 2019, 09:24:54 AM »
This argument doesn’t hold up, most of Duff’s draft picks arent in the league anymore if they aren’t on the Jets. If they weren’t excrement picks they would have jobs on another team.

That's a bit simplistic and overlooks a couple of major points. The first year or two of most players in the NFL is when they learn to be an effective NFL player, if they're badly coached at that stage then they probably won't amount to anything later. There's the odd guy who figures it out later, but that's usually a high pick who gets a new coach.

Once we've had them a couple of years and then cut them, they're damaged goods. They've become a reclamation project and the new coach has to really believe in their underlying talent to do that, if they even get a second chance with a different team.

I'm not saying that Macc made great picks, just that the coaching staff certainly didn't do him or his players any favours.
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« Reply #71 on: December 18, 2019, 10:37:10 AM »
This argument doesn’t hold up, most of Duff’s draft picks arent in the league anymore if they aren’t on the Jets. If they weren’t excrement picks they would have jobs on another team.

It's like Enunwa coming around after Idzik was gone, an exception to the rule that most of the picks were garbage. I think as Jet fans we've just forgotten what a good draft is supposed to look like, it should be more than 3-5 good guys in three drafts, most of whom we don't re-sign. We have to go back to early Tannenbaum or look at other teams to see what a good draft should be.
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Re: #Blessuaned
« Reply #72 on: December 18, 2019, 02:31:10 PM »
That's a bit simplistic and overlooks a couple of major points. The first year or two of most players in the NFL is when they learn to be an effective NFL player, if they're badly coached at that stage then they probably won't amount to anything later. There's the odd guy who figures it out later, but that's usually a high pick who gets a new coach.

Once we've had them a couple of years and then cut them, they're damaged goods. They've become a reclamation project and the new coach has to really believe in their underlying talent to do that, if they even get a second chance with a different team.

I'm not saying that Macc made great picks, just that the coaching staff certainly didn't do him or his players any favours.


I don’t disagree with your point, but look at the actual Jets picks objectively. What NFL coach is turning Jachai Polite or Hackenberg into a productive NFL player?

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« Reply #73 on: December 18, 2019, 03:02:35 PM »
I don’t disagree with your point, but look at the actual Jets picks objectively. What NFL coach is turning Jachai Polite or Hackenberg into a productive NFL player?
Ok, but on the flipside there's no way that either of those two players weren't getting picked by someone, Hackenberg because he was an interesting project and Polite because despite being a total prick he was outrageously talented.

Macc picked both too early, but we didn't have the right coaches to get anything out of either of them. (It's quite possible that no one does, but that doesn't mean that either of them couldn't have become NFL players.)
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Re: #Blessuaned
« Reply #74 on: December 29, 2019, 05:08:51 PM »
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