Trade Down Scenarios

[Libero_2]

Those QB drafts were much better

Of course, but a move to the spot requires a premium

Let’s say the Skins go from 15 to 3 for

15, 46, 76

2020 1 and 3

Way less value than above, but that haul could be franchise altering if we use it properly.

[Johnny English]

Those QB drafts were much better

Maybe memory fails me, but I don't recall Goff being a hugely touted prospect at the time.

[Heismanberg]

Maybe memory fails me, but I don't recall Goff being a hugely touted prospect at the time.

He most definitely was

[reuben]

I was pretty confident that of the Big Three, Paxton Lynch was the safest bet.

[AlioTheFool]

I'm always a fan of trading down for more picks.

But I'm terrified of Maccagnan getting multiple 2s and screwing them up.

[SixFeetDeep]

An NFL executive told SNY's Ralph Vacchiano why he or she really thinks we're hearing about the Jets and Houston DT Ed Oliver right now.

"Interesting that this Oliver stuff (with the Jets) comes out right after we all hear that the Raiders might be in love with Oliver," the executive said. "Sounds to me like the Jets are trying to smoke Gruden and Mayock into trading up a spot."

1) Kyler
2) Quinnen
3) Swap spots with Oakland for literally anything
4) Bosa
5) Profit.

[Libero_2]

I'm always a fan of trading down for more picks.

But I'm terrified of Maccagnan getting multiple 2s and screwing them up.

If he’s got them, our chances are better than if he doesn’t.

We have to acquire the picks and hope Macs the right guy if he isn’t we are screwed anyways

[AlioTheFool]

If he’s got them, our chances are better than if he doesn’t.

We have to acquire the picks and hope Macs the right guy if he isn’t we are screwed anyways

And that's the point. I've been pretty vocally anti-Maccagnan.

[Libero_2]

And that's the point. I've been pretty vocally anti-Maccagnan.

The second half of my statement is still very true. If we have the wrong guy we are fucked.

If someone is good they need less darts to throw at the board to get a high cumulative score. If someone is bad they need more darts to get the same results. Solid you give someone who is already good more darts, then they will score higher.

So either way the more darts we have to fling at the dart board the better our chances of getting some decent players is. Obviously some darts are worth a lot more. But I just think more picks is always going to be better

[AlioTheFool]

The second half of my statement is still very true. If we have the wrong guy we are fucked.

If someone is good they need less darts to throw at the board to get a high cumulative score. If someone is bad they need more darts to get the same results. Solid you give someone who is already good more darts, then they will score higher.

So either way the more darts we have to fling at the dart board the better our chances of getting some decent players is. Obviously some darts are worth a lot more. But I just think more picks is always going to be better

John Idzik had two handfuls of darts and couldn't hit the board much less score. Giving a bad dart player more darts just increases the odds he'll hit an innocent bystander in the eye.

That said, I'm still in a wait-and-see pattern with Maccagnan. My hope is that Bowles and his staff had way too much influence on the players drafted the last 3 years and that now that Maccagnan and his scouts are in control, they'll make better choices.

[MBGreen]

John Idzik had two handfuls of darts and couldn't hit the board much less score. Giving a bad dart player more darts just increases the odds he'll hit an innocent bystander in the eye.

That said, I'm still in a wait-and-see pattern with Maccagnan. My hope is that Bowles and his staff had way too much influence on the players drafted the last 3 years and that now that Maccagnan and his scouts are in control, they'll make better choices.

John Idzik is a glorified accountant with zero experience in scouting.

[AlioTheFool]

John Idzik is a glorified accountant with zero experience in scouting.

And Mike Maccagnan is a very experienced scout who drafted Christian Hackenberg, ArDarius Stewart, Lorenzo Mauldin, and Bryce Petty.

I'll happily credit him, if and when he puts a playoff-caliber roster together. He'll always get props from me for getting Darnold, but he has to do enough with the rest of the roster to make sure Darnold isn't wasted.

[MBGreen]

And Mike Maccagnan is a very experienced scout who drafted Christian Hackenberg, ArDarius Stewart, Lorenzo Mauldin, and Bryce Petty.

I'll happily credit him, if and when he puts a playoff-caliber roster together. He'll always get props from me for getting Darnold, but he has to do enough with the rest of the roster to make sure Darnold isn't wasted.

i like Duff more than Bradway and Idzik.  But the bar isn't set very high either.

[Heismanberg]

And Mike Maccagnan is a very experienced scout who drafted Christian Hackenberg, ArDarius Stewart, Lorenzo Mauldin, and Bryce Petty.

I'll happily credit him, if and when he puts a playoff-caliber roster together. He'll always get props from me for getting Darnold, but he has to do enough with the rest of the roster to make sure Darnold isn't wasted.

It’s well-documented that the coaching staff (John Morton) asked for ArDarius Stewart.

[Heismanberg]

Not sure how anyone can use Bryce Petty against Maccagnan either.