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Re: The Curious Case of Adam Gase - freaking Fired
« Reply #2295 on: April 29, 2020, 03:41:46 PM »
Not sure what’s worse the Gase argument or the Rex argument
Honestly, I prefer Rex arguments at this point. I think we've had pretty much every conceivable Gase argument over the last 5 months, and I am so sick of it. Plus, the Rex ones are easier to ignore.

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Re: The Curious Case of Adam Gase - freaking Fired
« Reply #2296 on: April 29, 2020, 04:51:46 PM »
Honestly, I prefer Rex arguments at this point. I think we've had pretty much every conceivable Gase argument over the last 5 months, and I am so sick of it. Plus, the Rex ones are easier to ignore.
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Re: The Curious Case of Adam Gase - freaking Fired
« Reply #2297 on: April 29, 2020, 04:58:05 PM »
Rex > Gase

YES. Combine the two and we've got a whole new argument, although I can't imagine that there are many who would rather have Gase.
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Re: The Curious Case of Adam Gase - freaking Fired
« Reply #2298 on: April 29, 2020, 05:06:15 PM »
Who do you think is a better coach?

The combination of Rex and Gase or the combination of Mangini and Bowles?

That should keep us going for 10 more years

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Re: The Curious Case of Adam Gase - freaking Fired
« Reply #2299 on: April 29, 2020, 05:18:25 PM »
Who do you think is a better coach?

The combination of Rex and Gase or the combination of Mangini and Bowles?

That should keep us going for 10 more years

Mangini HC / Bowles DC > Rex and Gase in either combination.
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Re: The Curious Case of Adam Gase - freaking Fired
« Reply #2300 on: April 29, 2020, 05:45:03 PM »
Mangini HC / Bowles DC > Rex and Gase in either combination.
Agreed.

It's amazing how well Mangini's tenure aged in retrospect.

Granted, if Gase truly is the offensive mind he is billed to be, I could change my mind later, but Gase needs to prove it.

Bowles and Rex as DC's are about the same for me, though obviously Rex is more fun.

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Re: The Curious Case of Adam Gase - freaking Fired
« Reply #2301 on: April 29, 2020, 05:47:30 PM »
I think our offense will be hopping this year.  More talent signed, a ton coming back from injury.  Same offensive and defensive scheme for 2 years in a row for a change.  Sam having consistency and making the 3rd year jump.

I'm positive.

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Re: The Curious Case of Adam Gase - freaking Fired
« Reply #2302 on: April 29, 2020, 05:52:04 PM »
I think our offense will be hopping this year.  More talent signed, a ton coming back from injury.  Same offensive and defensive scheme for 2 years in a row for a change.  Sam having consistency and making the 3rd year jump.

I'm positive.

I am positive too, the Jets offense will be better....... It can't get any worse.
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Re: The Curious Case of Adam Gase - freaking Fired
« Reply #2303 on: April 29, 2020, 06:15:45 PM »
Bring back Mangini
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Re: The Curious Case of Adam Gase - freaking Fired
« Reply #2304 on: April 29, 2020, 07:12:38 PM »
The point where I lost all hope in Mangini being a successful coach here was when he thought waving Gholston’s combine numbers was a solid motivational tactic.
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Re: The Curious Case of Adam Gase - freaking Fired
« Reply #2305 on: April 29, 2020, 08:46:33 PM »
The point where I lost all hope in Mangini being a successful coach here was when he thought waving Gholston’s combine numbers was a solid motivational tactic.
I don't remember that.

But as a side note - Gholston is viewed as the poster child for workout warriors. I don't think that's fair at all. The guy was a monster in college. He had the Ohio State single-season sack record, which has only been broken by Bosa and Chase Young. He was a top-20 pick well before the combine if I remember.

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Re: The Curious Case of Adam Gase - freaking Fired
« Reply #2306 on: April 30, 2020, 08:01:05 AM »


Who do you think is a better coach?

The combination of Rex and Gase or the combination of Mangini and Bowles?

That should keep us going for 10 more years

I'm actually stumped by this.

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Re: The Curious Case of Adam Gase - freaking Fired
« Reply #2307 on: April 30, 2020, 10:37:38 AM »
Agreed.

It's amazing how well Mangini's tenure aged in retrospect.

Granted, if Gase truly is the offensive mind he is billed to be, I could change my mind later, but Gase needs to prove it.

Bowles and Rex as DC's are about the same for me, though obviously Rex is more fun.

Except Rex had historically nasty defenses until the talent dissolved.

Bowles was just horrendous all around.

While Mangini had his excrement together all around the best, I think Bowles was just the worst of the bunch. Gase has another year to determine where he falls in the halls of suckitude

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Re: The Curious Case of Adam Gase - freaking Fired
« Reply #2308 on: April 30, 2020, 10:53:21 AM »
Except Rex had historically nasty defenses until the talent dissolved.

Bowles was just horrendous all around.

While Mangini had his excrement together all around the best, I think Bowles was just the worst of the bunch. Gase has another year to determine where he falls in the halls of suckitude

Bowles is a great DC. Built an excellent defense in Arizona which is what got him the Jets HC job, then went to Tampa and immediately turned them into one of the best defenses in the league. Football coaches are not immune to the Peter Principle as we have keenly proven a bunch of times, but it doesn't mean they're not still great coaches. As Heismanberg has said previously, being a head coach is less of a coaching role and more of CEO type of function. It's one of the many knocks I have on Gase, and one of the reasons why his continued failure is highly likely.
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Re: The Curious Case of Adam Gase - freaking Fired
« Reply #2309 on: April 30, 2020, 11:55:28 AM »
Bowles is a great DC. Built an excellent defense in Arizona which is what got him the Jets HC job, then went to Tampa and immediately turned them into one of the best defenses in the league. Football coaches are not immune to the Peter Principle as we have keenly proven a bunch of times, but it doesn't mean they're not still great coaches. As Heismanberg has said previously, being a head coach is less of a coaching role and more of CEO type of function. It's one of the many knocks I have on Gase, and one of the reasons why his continued failure is highly likely.

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