2019 NFL Draft

[SixFeetDeep]

Allen is a great athlete too, I just prefer Oliver and Burns over him

This is much closer than I had remembered, I had just seen Burns profile more recently:

https://mobile.twitter.com/mathbomb/status/1102619038897922048

https://mobile.twitter.com/mathbomb/status/1115967667842822146

[reuben]

Courtesy of u/keithyp24 using pff data
https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/comments/bc2d1x/interior_defensive_linemen_runstop_pass_rush/

[Libero_2]

At least the data supports Quinnen is a monster well ahead of the other DTs.

[Heismanberg]

At least the data supports Quinnen is a monster well ahead of the other DTs.

It's also how he was used too. 

Simmons, Lawrence, and Williams play similar techniques.  They line up as 0, 1, or 2i a lot of the time.  They aren't being asked to slant or stunt very much.

Oliver was asked to do all kinds of ridiculous stuff by the Houston staff and it really wasted a lot his ability at times.

[reuben]

I'm always interested in radically different takes this time of year and Hayden Winks' analytics rankings are certainly that.  A few highlights:

Andy Isabella is WR1
Nick Bosa is EDGE5 (between Gary and Winovich!)
Will Grier is 13th overall
Heismanberg's boi Oliver is DT1, 5th overall (2nd d lineman behind EDGE1 Montez Sweat)
Joejuan Williams is CB1

https://www.rotoworld.com/article/evaluations/nfl-draft-analytics-top-300?page=0

[SixFeetDeep]

1 week til the draft

[Gorilla]

My updated, pulled-from-derriere draft pick guess, if staying at 3:

40% Quinnen
30% JAllen
25% Bosa
5% other  (and only "others" i can realistically think of are Oliver or an O-lineman)

[reuben]

Pro Football Focus
@PFF

Pressures per pass-rush snap:
Allen – 23.4%
Ferguson – 20.8%
Bosa (17) – 20.7%
Sweat – 18.0%
Ferrell – 17.3%
Q Williams – 16.7%
Burns – 16.5%
Polite – 16.4%
Wilkins – 14.0%
Gary – 13.9%
Simmons – 10.6%
Oliver – 10.2%

#AllenCountry

[Libero_2]

#AllenCountry

It’s impossible to argue his production

[Andrew Ryan]

I desperately want Josh Allen on this team.

[reuben]

So here's a weird thing that's happening: nobody is looking at Greedy Williams. 

Walterfootball sucks, but they've got the most comprehensive list of prospect meetings I've been able to find thus far. (Not just private workouts, but combine meetings, shrine game meeting, senior bowl, etc.) 

For comparison's sake:

Byron Murphy
Combine Meeting: Houston, Kansas City, Miami
Pro Day Meeting: Arizona
Private "Official 30" Meeting: Carolina, Detroit, Kansas City, Pittsburgh

Joejuan Williams
Combine: Houston, Kansas City
Pro Day: Chargers
Official 30: Buffalo, Detroit, Houston, Kansas City, New England, New Orleans, Tennessee
Private Workout: Atlanta, Dallas, New England   
Local Visit: Tennessee

Lonnie Johnson Jr (generally considered a mid round prospect)
Combine: Panthers, Seattle 
Official 30: Carolina, Detroit, Kansas City, New England, Tampa, Tennessee 
Private workout: Houston

Greedy
Combine: Houston, Miami, Pittsburgh
Pro Day: None
Official 30: None
Private Workout: None
Local Visit: None

Weird.  Is he such an elite prospect that it's a waste of time to even kick his tires?  Maybe no one thinks he'll be there when their team is on the clock, or they're trying to feign disinterest in the hope that he'll drop to them.  But even guys like Ramsey, Peterson, Ward, Claiborne... they were all thoroughly evaluated and scrutinized.  And they all seem like safer picks to me than Greedy. 

I think he falls out of the first round.  Something's fishy. 

[Jumbo]

^Not so sure about that. Hockenson also hasn't met with anyone and I'm pretty sure he'll still be a first rounder.

[Sir]

Just spitballing because I'm bored (and no, I am not advocating for such a move)....what would you want in addition to the Seahawks #1 pick (#21) and Frank Clark for the #3 pick?

[Heismanberg]

Just spitballing because I'm bored (and no, I am not advocating for such a move)....what would you want in addition to the Seahawks #1 pick (#21) and Frank Clark for the #3 pick?

I would do this unless Nick Bosa falls

It’s highly unlikely we’ll see a draft day trade for a player on the franchise tag.

[Sir]

I would do this unless Nick Bosa falls

It’s highly unlikely we’ll see a draft day trade for a player on the franchise tag.

It's an interesting idea and I think when you hear the Jets being one of the teams talking to the Seahawks (which was again reiterated this AM by Rappaport BTW) it has to be the premise as we don't have a 2nd round pick to trade them and I doubt they'd be interested in swapping Clark for Leo.

If it were to happen I'd imagine it would have to before Wednesday and with a contract extension window of some sort.

I'd be okay coming away from the 1st round with Clark and someone like Bradbury for example.