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Re: Sam "the nice one" Darnold
« Reply #2115 on: September 22, 2020, 11:33:31 AM »
Yeah, I wasn’t even looking at Andrews. Really bad.

When does Clarke come off the IR? Was he done for the year?

Clark is on short term IR.  He'll be back after Week 3, and hopefully he starts taking some of GVR's reps. 
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Re: Sam "the nice one" Darnold
« Reply #2116 on: September 22, 2020, 11:39:18 AM »
Clark is on short term IR.  He'll be back after Week 3, and hopefully he starts taking some of GVR's reps. 

I forgot Clark was hurt, too. Pretty much our entire draft class is injured or not playing besides Becton (and Braden Mann). Gase really went full Tonya Harding in camp.

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Re: Sam "the nice one" Darnold
« Reply #2118 on: September 22, 2020, 12:10:06 PM »
Better question: why didn’t Gase just call a QB sneak? Way higher success rate and we’re not running the same play that just got stuffed with a far inferior player.

Horrible call by Gase

I was driving with the game on the radio and wondering why we didn't call a sneak. Of course I couldn't see the defense but they said it was like a foot to go. Marty Lyons was wondering why they took Gore out, I was wondering why Sam couldn't just lean forward over center unless they had it stacked up. Turning point in the game, I thought.
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Re: Sam "the nice one" Darnold
« Reply #2120 on: September 24, 2020, 08:35:01 AM »
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In 2019, Sam Darnold's Y/A on play action passes (8.55) was 2.24 higher than his Y/A on non-PA (6.31), the 12th-highest boost among qualified QBs.

Yet, play action was called for Darnold on only 24% of his dropbacks, 20th.

In 2020, it's even lower: 15% PA dropbacks, 2nd-lowest.

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The Jets have picked up 5+ yards on 13 of 23 first down rush attempts. That's 56.5%, 2nd-highest in the NFL.

That is the *definition* of a run game that sets up a strong play action game.

Yet, Darnold has run play action on 11/73 dropbacks, 15.1%, 2nd-lowest.


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Re: Sam "the nice one" Darnold
« Reply #2121 on: September 24, 2020, 08:50:31 AM »
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Sam darnold is actually deathly allergic to play action so gase tries to avoid it at all costs #brilliant

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Re: Sam "the nice one" Darnold
« Reply #2122 on: September 24, 2020, 08:52:27 AM »
Not sure I'd be comfortable calling a lot of play action with GVR at guard either.

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Re: Sam "the nice one" Darnold
« Reply #2123 on: September 24, 2020, 09:52:41 AM »
Not sure I'd be comfortable calling a lot of play action with GVR at guard either.
He's looked terrible is this normal for him?

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Re: Sam "the nice one" Darnold
« Reply #2124 on: September 24, 2020, 09:53:19 AM »
He's looked terrible is this normal for him?

Probably.  Sadly, this is better than Winters. 
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Re: Sam "the nice one" Darnold
« Reply #2125 on: September 24, 2020, 02:30:17 PM »
We probably won't end up with the #1 pick but, if we do, I would absolutely trade it for an unprecedented haul over drafting Lawrence to replace Darnold. I'm prepared to die on that hill.

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Re: Sam "the nice one" Darnold
« Reply #2126 on: September 24, 2020, 02:34:01 PM »
We probably won't end up with the #1 pick but, if we do, I would absolutely trade it for an unprecedented haul over drafting Lawrence to replace Darnold. I'm prepared to die on that hill.

I am 100% in agreement with you.
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Re: Sam "the nice one" Darnold
« Reply #2127 on: September 24, 2020, 02:44:34 PM »
We probably won't end up with the #1 pick but, if we do, I would absolutely trade it for an unprecedented haul over drafting Lawrence to replace Darnold. I'm prepared to die on that hill.

This coincides with the argument that this team is more than just a QB away. The roster freaking sucks.
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Re: Sam "the nice one" Darnold
« Reply #2128 on: September 24, 2020, 02:47:34 PM »
If we have the #1 pick, Darnold is going to have to have done some real magic with guys who are driving Ubers at this very moment in order to convince me he's still the future of the franchise

I love Sam, but Gase or not, if the Jets draft first, Lawrence is the pick unless someone makes Ditka look conservative or Sam does a lot more than a couple of flashes a game
Teams that draft well do so no matter where they pick. Teams that draft poorly do so no matter where they pick I want my team to win games and draft well

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Re: Sam "the nice one" Darnold
« Reply #2129 on: September 24, 2020, 02:48:30 PM »
We probably won't end up with the #1 pick but, if we do, I would absolutely trade it for an unprecedented haul over drafting Lawrence to replace Darnold. I'm prepared to die on that hill.

I agree, I don't think Darnold is our problem, if anything he's part of the solution. That could change over 14 more games but in the snap shot of today I think so.

Also the most likely solution that we're bad enough to fire the coach but not draft #1 overall, that's pretty rare.
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