Sam "the nice one" Darnold

[Derek Smalls]

I never said Darnold is a bust. I said if Darnold played for another team, we might consider him a bust. Just like you literally just said with Baker. If Baker had the same production and same supporting cast with the Jets, there is no way we would call him a bust.

All this started was because I questioned giving Darnold an extension after this season because Mahomes and Darnold are two completely separate cases. Mahomes has proven he's a star. Darnold is still more potential than production at this point. Once the production matches the potential, we will pay him.

I love Darnold. I'm just trying to be rational.

[Johnny English]

I am struggling to rationalise the mindset that thinks we could/should extend Darnold at the end of this season, but that Adams should shut up and suck it up for another year.

[Heismanberg]

If Baker had the same production and same supporting cast with the Jets, there is no way we would call him a bust.

Exactly, but Mayfield is in a much better situation, putting up similar numbers.  That's why he's very close to becoming a bust, because Cleveland is likely going to give up on him faster given the talent they've put around him.

Sam's best target was Robby Anderson, who is an elite deep threat and nothing else.  Not necessarily the best kind of weapon to have when you can't block. 

[Andrew Ryan]

I am struggling to rationalise the mindset that thinks we could/should extend Darnold at the end of this season, but that Adams should shut up and suck it up for another year.

One's a quarterback and the other's not. I never suggested we should definitely extend him after this season. We should only do that if his play warrants it. That being said, it's a lot easier to justify paying a quarterback two years ahead of free agency than it is a safety.

[Andrew Ryan]

Adams' head would explode if we extended Darnold first.

[Johnny English]

One's a quarterback and the other's not. I never suggested we should definitely extend him after this season. We should only do that if his play warrants it. That being said, it's a lot easier to justify paying a quarterback two years ahead of free agency than it is a safety.

One's going to get quarterback money and the other's not. I can't see any rationale behind extending a QB after three years with only one truly good season beneath his belt (regardless of how much the other two are down to him or not) while also telling one of the best defensive players to be drafted in ten years, a team MVP, a first team All Pro, second team All Pro and two time Pro Bowler in his first three years in the league, that we'd rather hang on to the dollars and the cap space for another year than pay him what he's clearly worth.

FWIW, I'm all over extending both after their third year. I'm sick of watching good players leave.

[dcm1602]

Exactly, but Mayfield is in a much better situation, putting up similar numbers.  That's why he's very close to becoming a bust, because Cleveland is likely going to give up on him faster given the talent they've put around him.

Sam's best target was Robby Anderson, who is an elite deep threat and nothing else.  Not necessarily the best kind of weapon to have when you can't block. 

Not to mention Darnold just turned 23

Bakers about to turn 26

That's a huge developmental period on a human level

[MBGreen]

Not to mention Darnold just turned 23

Bakers about to turn 26

That's a huge developmental period on a human level

So you’re saying Baker has more pubes than Darnold

[MBGreen]

Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
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Darnold on Gase: “He’s the right leader for this team, for sure.” #jets



jesus

[Heismanberg]

Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
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Darnold on Gase: “He’s the right leader for this team, for sure.” #jets



jesus

What the freak do you want him to say?

He clearly likes the guy.

[CatoTheElder]

Trade Sam.

(Highly sarcastic)

[Libero_2]

Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
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Darnold on Gase: “He’s the right leader for this team, for sure.” #jets



jesus

He’s now the de facto leader of the team in the eyes of everyone now that Jamal is gone. Adams just lit his coach on fire to get out of town. It doesn’t matter what we want or believe, Gase is the guy for this offseason. Of course the media was gonna ask Sam is he the right guy after Adams BS.

If Sam had publically agreed with Jamal, we’d be a complete disaster from a PR perspective. Management/ownership believed in Gase enough to bring him back, so everyone in the building needs to support the guy until he isn’t any more. It’s that simple.

[loyaljetsfan]

Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
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Darnold on Gase: “He’s the right leader for this team, for sure.” #jets



jesus

What else would you expect him to say?

Sam understands that he needs to provide the "right" answers to the media after the Adams fiasco.

Not reading into it anymore than that.

[MBGreen]

What the freak do you want him to say?

He clearly likes the guy.

I expect Gase to be fired, so Sam isn't forced to lie thru his teeth.

[IATA]

I expect Gase to be fired, so Sam isn't forced to lie thru his teeth.

you've been a jets fan long enough to know better, sir.