Josh Allen Hype Train

[Heismanberg]

Allen throws the 5, 10, and 15 yard out better than any QB prospect I've seen since Jay Cutler.  That thing is humming. 

If he gets a supporting cast and some protection, I believe in him.  But he is definitely a boom-or-bust prospect.

Darnold - Allen - Rosen - Mayfield

[Heismanberg]

Probably a PFF generated stat, so take it with a grain of salt. It’s also worth noting I’ve read before that he faced more pressure than just about every other college QB (Darnold was close though).

I've never been a fan of the QB rating, but QB rating in college football is completely useless. 

Comparing what Baker Mayfield, Mason Rudolph, and Luke Falk do as a passers to guys like Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, and Josh Allen makes no sense.  They play in completely different schemes.  The route concepts and the timing are just way off.

You cannot compare Air Raid QBs to Pro Style QBs.  The philosophies of those passing offenses are completely different.  The timing and the route concepts are miles apart. 

And are passes that are thrown away factored into this?  ...because you're not going to see Air Raid guys throw the ball away very much because their reads are either pre=determined or that ball is coming out so fast that pressure does not matter.  Darnold, Rosen, and Allen are hanging in the pocket making reads.

[SixFeetDeep]

Darnold - Allen - Rosen - Mayfield

I think this is Maccagnan’s board

[Heismanberg]

I think this is Maccagnan’s board

It should be

[casman02]

The more I see that TOJ guy on twitter, the more I am okay with us drafting Allen

[Andrew Ryan]

Darnold - Allen - Rosen - Mayfield

This is the whole reason why I believe we traded up to 3 as early as we did and for as much as we did. Maccagnan wanted to make sure that we get one of those top-3 guys. Mayfield might as well not be on our draft board. He may not be, for all I know.

[SixFeetDeep]

This is the whole reason why I believe we traded up to 3 as early as we did and for as much as we did. Maccagnan wanted to make sure that we get one of those top-3 guys. Mayfield might as well not be on our draft board. He may not be, for all I know.

Trading up for Josh Allen would be a mistake. I could get behind trading up for Rosen/Darnold.

[MBGreen]

This is the whole reason why I believe we traded up to 3 as early as we did and for as much as we did. Maccagnan wanted to make sure that we get one of those top-3 guys. Mayfield might as well not be on our draft board. He may not be, for all I know.

The jets are sure spending alot of time and resources on Mayfield

[Andrew Ryan]

The jets are sure spending alot of time and resources on Mayfield

I realize that. It could be due diligence or it could be in an effort to convince a team to trade ahead of us for Mayfield, pushing the quarterback we really want (Rosen or Allen) down to us.

I just can't see Maccagnan picking Mayfield at 3, given that there's no precedent for a 6' quarterback going that high and the quarterbacks that Maccagnan has invested in to date.

[SixFeetDeep]

The jets are sure spending alot of time and resources on Mayfield

Why wouldn’t they?

[MBGreen]

Why wouldn’t they?

Because

[Andrew Ryan]

None of us have the answers and we're going to drive ourselves nuts if we spend the next five weeks trying to come up with them.

[SixFeetDeep]

None of us have the answers and we're going to drive ourselves nuts if we spend the next five weeks trying to come up with them.

I think I’m already there. This is taking years off my life

[Heismanberg]

This is the whole reason why I believe we traded up to 3 as early as we did and for as much as we did. Maccagnan wanted to make sure that we get one of those top-3 guys. Mayfield might as well not be on our draft board. He may not be, for all I know.

I think that’s his reasoning as well.  He wanted to make sure he’d get one, even if someone moves up to 1 or 2.

[Badger]

The more I see that TOJ guy on twitter, the more I am okay with us drafting Allen

I hate Josh Allen now.