from what i've understood in the past, being a simp and being stuck in the friendzone can be very similar, with a couple of notable differences. i don't think the 'friendzone' label has any connotations about how hot the girl is, whereas a 'simp' tries to do the most for a girl who isn't even all that. plus, i don't think you actually need to be a friend to the girl to be a simp, you're just always trying to act like sir lancelot to other chicks for no damn reason