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[AlioTheFool]

I'm not anti-Douglas but before we go tooting his horn about his eye for OL talent, let's not forget he handed Kalil $8.4MM to come out of retirement. Harrison shows no dropoff when he comes in for him and was already under contract.

[Italian Seafood]

I'm not anti-Douglas but before we go tooting his horn about his eye for OL talent, let's not forget he handed Kalil $8.4MM to come out of retirement. Harrison shows no dropoff when he comes in for him and was already under contract.

Right but I think he saw the need right away to upgrade the line so he took a chance. That was my point, it didn't work but he at least addressed it with limited options by the time he got in the job.

[AlioTheFool]

Right but I think he saw the need right away to upgrade the line so he took a chance. That was my point, it didn't work but he at least addressed it with limited options by the time he got in the job.

He took an eight and half million dollar chance. Presumably, they gave Kalil a workout beforehand, no? What did he show there that he can't seem to do on the field to earn that payday? And how much better did he look there than Harrison had already shown?

Again, I'm not trying to knock Douglas. I'm just saying let's temper expectations.

[Italian Seafood]

He took an eight and half million dollar chance. Presumably, they gave Kalil a workout beforehand, no? What did he show there that he can't seem to do on the field to earn that payday? And how much better did he look there than Harrison had already shown?

Again, I'm not trying to knock Douglas. I'm just saying let's temper expectations.

Kalil played a long time in the league, I think it was based on that. Again, silver lining to me is he saw and addressed a need on the O-line.

Hopefully there will be a top 5 OT when we get there this time, and we don't go D line again. As much as I love D line.

[SixFeetDeep]

I'm not anti-Douglas but before we go tooting his horn about his eye for OL talent, let's not forget he handed Kalil $8.4MM to come out of retirement. Harrison shows no dropoff when he comes in for him and was already under contract.

Kalil was a low risk dart throw. We had an all time bad center last year and didn’t land either of the 2 big C FA targets in the offseason. At very worst, Kalil is a smart player who should help Darnold learn. There really wasn’t much else Douglas could do to upgrade the line by the time he got here. It was worth the risk.

[AlioTheFool]

Kalil played a long time in the league, I think it was based on that. Again, silver lining to me is he saw and addressed a need on the O-line.

Hopefully there will be a top 5 OT when we get there this time, and we don't go D line again. As much as I love D line.

Kalil was a low risk dart throw. We had an all time bad center last year and didn’t land either of the 2 big C FA targets in the offseason. At very worst, Kalil is a smart player who should help Darnold learn. There really wasn’t much else Douglas could do to upgrade the line by the time he got here. It was worth the risk.

I'm honestly not knocking Douglas. I'm just trying to make the point that so far, we don't know if he will do a good job building the offensive line because the only guy he's brought in so far is Kalil.

[MBGreen]

I'm honestly not knocking Douglas. I'm just trying to make the point that so far, we don't know if he will do a good job building the offensive line because the only guy he's brought in so far is Kalil.

Kalil was a quick fix attempt.  I'm not sure i would hang that on Douglas's competence meter. I actually thought it was a good move at the time, it just didn't go our way.

[dcm1602]

I'm honestly not knocking Douglas. I'm just trying to make the point that so far, we don't know if he will do a good job building the offensive line because the only guy he's brought in so far is Kalil.

He got Alex Lewis for a 7th round pick

[AlioTheFool]

Kalil was a quick fix attempt.  I'm not sure i would hang that on Douglas's competence meter. I actually thought it was a good move at the time, it just didn't go our way.

I'm not sure how to express it more clearly, but I'm saying there currently is no competence meter. He hasn't had time to show us anything yet.

He got Alex Lewis for a 7th round pick

Fair enough. Basically another miniature-scale move. Still doesn't change my point that we need to see him actually draft some OL before we decide he can do it with any competency.

[dcm1602]

He absolutely hasn't had a chance to show us his competence. But the first true test will be what he does with Gase assuming this team doesn't have an epic turnaround.

A bigger concern is will the Jets really fire Gase, go out and spend huge money on a top coaching prospect, while still having to pay Gase AND Bowles their coaching salaries for next season? That's a lot of money, so contractually getting rid of Gase is pretty complicated

[Italian Seafood]

I'm honestly not knocking Douglas. I'm just trying to make the point that so far, we don't know if he will do a good job building the offensive line because the only guy he's brought in so far is Kalil.

I understand what you're saying, limited moves to evaluate, limited options to make a move. I just think it's good that the first thing he tried to fix was the O line, he's not wrong.

[bojanglesman]

I hope Doug E Fresh doesn't get a boner for Trent Williams.

[dcm1602]

I hope Doug E Fresh doesn't get a boner for Trent Williams.

With a 1st round asking price I'd say it's fairly unlikely to happen.

A team like new England could be far more likely

[Heismanberg]

Brian Winters should be released before the team gets back to New Jersey

[d sw0rdz]

Brian Winters should be released before the team gets back to New Jersey

he truly looked like a piece of excrement today