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Re: Offensive Line
« Reply #1530 on: December 15, 2021, 01:07:45 PM »
Quote from: SixFeetDeep on December 15, 2021, 12:57:05 PM
If anyone else has a guess, step in.

I think you've got it: we've got the beef up front to disrupt the blocking but nobody behind them to bring down the ball carrier.

I still really don't understand how we have a historically bad run defense with JFM, Q, and Foley on the line. 
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Re: Offensive Line
« Reply #1531 on: December 15, 2021, 01:22:16 PM »
Quote from: reuben on December 15, 2021, 01:07:45 PM
I think you've got it: we've got the beef up front to disrupt the blocking but nobody behind them to bring down the ball carrier.

I still really don't understand how we have a historically bad run defense with JFM, Q, and Foley on the line. 
Because our linebackers are hot garbage, and our defensive line is taught to focus on rushing the passer and getting up field over anything else.
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Re: Offensive Line
« Reply #1532 on: December 15, 2021, 02:16:14 PM »


Quote from: reuben on December 15, 2021, 01:07:45 PM
I think you've got it: we've got the beef up front to disrupt the blocking but nobody behind them to bring down the ball carrier.

That makes sense.
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Re: Offensive Line
« Reply #1533 on: December 15, 2021, 05:54:05 PM »
Quote from: reuben on December 15, 2021, 01:07:45 PM
I think you've got it: we've got the beef up front to disrupt the blocking but nobody behind them to bring down the ball carrier.

I still really don't understand how we have a historically bad run defense with JFM, Q, and Foley on the line. 

JFM should be an interior player most of the time.  We just don’t have the bodies to do that right now.

The constant rotation is frustrating.  Nathan Shepherd does not need to play meaningful snaps.  I’m fine with Q, Rankins, and Foley rotating.  But get Shepherd the freak off the field.
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Re: Offensive Line
« Reply #1534 on: December 15, 2021, 06:59:51 PM »
Quote from: Heismanberg on December 15, 2021, 05:54:05 PM
JFM should be an interior player most of the time.  We just don’t have the bodies to do that right now.

The constant rotation is frustrating.  Nathan Shepherd does not need to play meaningful snaps.  I’m fine with Q, Rankins, and Foley rotating.  But get Shepherd the freak off the field.
At this point I'd rather see Jonathan Marshall get some snaps since we are out of it anyway.
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Re: Offensive Line
« Reply #1535 on: December 16, 2021, 12:54:23 PM »
Quote from: Derek Smalls on December 15, 2021, 01:22:16 PM
Because our linebackers are hot garbage, and our defensive line is taught to focus on rushing the passer and getting up field over anything else.

Mosley seems to be the only person who can tackle once anyone gets 2 yards past LOS.
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Re: Offensive Line
« Reply #1536 on: January 03, 2022, 02:08:47 PM »
Laken Tomlinson (SF) and Lucas Patrick (GB) will be a free agent guards in 2022. 

Under 30 scheme fits with starting experience
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Re: Offensive Line
« Reply #1537 on: January 03, 2022, 02:11:06 PM »
We need to bring back LDT and Dan Feeney. 

Hopefully Fant's injury isn't significant.  That could change the blueprint a bit. 

Fant
AVT
McGovern
LDT
Becton

That is a good enough line to win in the NFL.  We've been mauling good defenses on the ground without Becton. 

We still need depth all across the line, but Feeney is valuable because he plays guard and center. 
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Re: Offensive Line
« Reply #1538 on: January 03, 2022, 02:31:55 PM »
Not an ACL for Fant. Saleh said it's a reinjury from a previous knee issue and we'll know more Wednesday. So I assume it won't be a huge deal, but he said he'll know more Wednesday.
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Re: Offensive Line
« Reply #1539 on: January 03, 2022, 08:06:29 PM »
Quote from: Derek Smalls on January 03, 2022, 02:31:55 PM
Not an ACL for Fant. Saleh said it's a reinjury from a previous knee issue and we'll know more Wednesday. So I assume it won't be a huge deal, but he said he'll know more Wednesday.

I hope "not serious" means day to day. Not serious in the NFL could mean pretty much anything less than a tear. I guess it's good for next year.
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Re: Offensive Line
« Reply #1540 on: January 05, 2022, 06:15:49 PM »
Does anyone still have issues with how Joe Douglas has repaired the OL?
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Re: Offensive Line
« Reply #1541 on: January 05, 2022, 06:18:13 PM »
Quote from: Heismanberg on January 05, 2022, 06:15:49 PM
Does anyone still have issues with how Joe Douglas has repaired the OL?
Never did
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Re: Offensive Line
« Reply #1542 on: January 05, 2022, 06:41:04 PM »
To recap the OL plan...

- Spend two 1st-round picks on OL, including trading up for one
- Signing George Fant to Connor McGovern to multi-year contracts
- Signing Morgan Moses for a bargain deal as insurance at OT, only to see him starting all season
- Signing/trading for Greg Van Roten, Dan Feeney, Josh Andrews, Laurent Duvernay-Tardif to try to get one startable OL out of the group
- Spending a 4th-round pick on Cameron Clark

We have 2 long-term pieces on the OL under contract for a bit (assuming Becton health). Fant and McGovern are reasonable starters under contract.

We've gone from an OL that had no hope even when fully healthy to an OL that is pushing people around in the running game despite missing multiple starters.
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Re: Offensive Line
« Reply #1543 on: January 05, 2022, 06:52:37 PM »
John Benton also deserves a lot of credit
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Re: Offensive Line
« Reply #1544 on: January 05, 2022, 07:02:42 PM »
Greg Van Roten was starting in the beginning of the season, so yes.
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