Jets Draft Position

[dcm1602]

How is drafting Dez Bryant lucky?

I  was thinking he was drafted far earlier than he was.

Never mind that

[bojanglesman]

Jerry Jones lucked his way into a top  QB and elite wide receiver as well.

We could draft the best offensive linemen in the league every year, but we still won't have a top 10 QB and top 5 wr like Dallas does

I'm not talking about Romo or Dez.  I'm talking about taking linemen early instead of trying to replace Romo too soon.

You'll never have a top QB if you put him behind a sketchy line.  He'll get Carr'd.

[dcm1602]

I'm not talking about Romo or Dez.  I'm talking about taking linemen early instead of trying to replace Romo too soon.

You'll never have a top QB if you put him behind a sketchy line.  He'll get Carr'd.

And a top QB will make a shakey line look like a top line.

Denver, new England, green bay aren't known for having elite offensive lines.

Peyton was tearing excrement up with stopgaps off the street

[bojanglesman]

And a top VETERAN QB will make a shakey line look like a top line.

Denver, new England, green bay aren't known for having elite offensive lines.

Peyton was tearing excrement up with stopgaps off the street

FYP.

[dcm1602]

If you think Brick will be a LT here in 4 years...........

Brick will likely start 3 more years.

The 4th  year could be hit or miss

Of course the biggest factor is going to be his contract not his age.

Because there's no freaking way we're paying him 13 million in 2017.

[Heismanberg]

Brick will likely start 3 more years.

The 4th  year could be hit or miss

Ferguson has fallen a cliff.  It's time to find his replacement now while the team is rebuilding. 

[Libero_2]

But drafting a long term solution at a position that the guy likely wouldn't play until he gets a new contract isn't the most efficient way to use resources.

If tackle is bpa you certainly have to consider it, but I'd much rather just trade out (assuming the offers there).

In the scenario you tossed out its either an OL or a defensive player. The fanbase might well revolt if we go defense.

Secondly I doubt it would be two full seasons before Brick is shuffled around on the OL and the new guy takes the LT role.

If you think Brick will be a LT here in 4 years...........

Exactly, Brick could shift to the right side in 2 years as his decline continues. Or he might be able to shift inside for the end of his career. I'm no OL expert, but if he's capable of being an elite LT for as long as he was, I'd have to imagine he could pick up the technique to play inside to finish out his career.

[dcm1602]

Ferguson has fallen a cliff.  It's time to find his replacement now while the team is rebuilding.

I do agree with that.

I just don't think doing it in the top 5 this year makes the most sense.

The way his contract is structured he's very likely to start at least two more years with the potential for more.

And it's hard to tell how bad your OL is, when you have the single worst QB in the league, and a rotating door at left guard

[dcm1602]

And I didnt consider the brick going to the right side idea 

I guess the next question is how much of Bricks falling off is because of our left guard spot being terrible

[Heismanberg]

And I didnt consider the brick going to the right side idea 

I guess the next question is how much of Bricks falling off is because of our left guard spot being terrible

It's not like Ferguson is going to get any better.  He's only going to decline.  It's time to start moving on from him, Mangold, and Harris.  Their time is up.

Mangold and Ferguson can still be serviceable players, but not for much longer. 

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[Libero_2]

I do agree with that.

I just don't think doing it in the top 5 this year makes the most sense.

The way his contract is structured he's very likely to start at least two more years with the potential for more.

And it's hard to tell how bad your OL is, when you have the single worst QB in the league, and a rotating door at left guard

Where else are you going to get a top LT.? It's the same argument as a QB. You want a great one, you gotta take him early in the draft. If the QBs are gone, look to grab a lineman. Our line has serious troubles and putting actually players on it would be a good thing.

Consider our OL could look like this next year

Rookie top 5 pick -Giacomini-Mangold-Winters-Brick

Or it could look like this

Brick-Winters-Mangold-Aboushi-Giacomini

I know which one I prefer next year, and for a few years after that as well

[Heismanberg]

Where else are you going to get a top LT.? It's the same argument as a QB. You want a great one, you gotta take him early in the draft. If the QBs are gone, look to grab a lineman. Our line has serious troubles and putting actually players on it would be a good thing.

Consider our OL could look like this next year

Rookie top 5 pick -Giacomini-Mangold-Winters-Brick

Or it could look like this

Brick-Winters-Mangold-Aboushi-Giacomini

I know which one I prefer next year, and for a few years after that as well

The rookie would likely start out on the right side or guard if it's Brandon Scherff.

[bojanglesman]

Brick will likely start 3 more years.

The 4th  year could be hit or miss

Of course the biggest factor is going to be his contract not his age.

Because there's no freaking way we're paying him 13 million in 2017.

If you are talking about 2017, that is the 3rd year, not the 4th.  2015 is next year.

[dcm1602]

Where else are you going to get a top LT.? It's the same argument as a QB. You want a great one, you gotta take him early in the draft. If the QBs are gone, look to grab a lineman. Our line has serious troubles and putting actually players on it would be a good thing.

Consider our OL could look like this next year

Rookie top 5 pick -Giacomini-Mangold-Winters-Brick

Or it could look like this

Brick-Winters-Mangold-Aboushi-Giacomini

I know which one I prefer next year, and for a few years after that as well

In your first scenario you're talking about multiple guys playing new positions.

Would you want to develop a young QB behind a rookie LT, a guy newly moved to right tackle, and a tackle freshly moved to guard?

With the contract structures of our OL, I don't see why you don't grab a guy in the second (where you can still get great prospects) and take your time developing him (being that Giacomini and D'Brickashaw are locked up). Best case scenario he's a future left tackle, worst and he's either a right tackle or depth.

It's certainly possible we draft a left tackle early, I just don't think it's the most likely scenario