U.S. Politics

[CatoTheElder]

Not entirely certain I understand everything here but it seems like this might be a significant snag in FL's plan to rescind RCID.

https://twitter.com/rumpfshaker/status/1518999915053080577?t=lwf_mrjAlCLXDDJSJMqErA&s=19

[delavan]

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/lawmakers-strike-word-marijuana-all-state-laws-calling-term-racist/MJOQZ7OCK5CUDLBA2H53CYOJXE/

[Badger]

https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1519295439278907392?t=Hy8jdnIJp6P6OHVRRZIBrQ&s=19

[reuben]

[Johnny English]

Elon will ride to the rescue.

[Badger]

The student loan cancellation buzz is like a bat signal going up to bring all the shittiest people out of the woodwork to oppose it

[CatoTheElder]

If I'm reading the info correctly it looks like the Utah Dems are backing Evan McMullin instead of nominating their own candidate to oppose Mike Lee, in an "anyone but the current guy" move.

Unrelated, Marjie busting out this old gem:

https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1519426271918186504?t=SEzH0TzTXKKikwFffgKKng&s=19

[delavan]

[bojanglesman]

The student loan cancellation buzz is like a bat signal going up to bring all the shittiest people out of the woodwork to oppose it

https://twitter.com/SenMikeLee/status/1519388083732594689?t=d6BLqDPteic_NS416V2iKg&s=19

[delavan]

https://twitter.com/SenMikeLee/status/1519388083732594689?t=d6BLqDPteic_NS416V2iKg&s=19

Lee completely missed the forest for the trees with his cynical, playing-to-the-crowd 'patronage' angle.  Many layers to this onion beginning with guaranteed loans giving in$titution$ the incentive to jack up tuition that outpaces inflation and the "racket" that's resulted from it.  For the percentage of those that take out a loan but do not complete their degree, they are doubly behind the 8-ball given their reduced earning power.   A slew of different angles to look at, e.g. (just spitballing), money back guarantees relative to earning power actualized vs. student debt accrued? 

 My point is, putting someone behind the 8-ball in perpetuity's obviously the last thing higher learning should seek to accomplish yet at the same time, the non-college working stiff who balks at the idea of paying for someone else's debt should not be dismissed as the 'shittiest segments' of society.  There's a solution in between the current (and simplistic) all-or-nothing argument....beginning with tuition at the institutional end and the usury-like burdens placed on loanees.

[Badger]

My point is, putting someone behind the 8-ball in perpetuity's obviously the last thing higher learning should seek to accomplish yet at the same time, the non-college working stiff who balks at the idea of paying for someone else's debt should not be dismissed as the 'shittiest segments' of society.  There's a solution in between the current (and simplistic) all-or-nothing argument....beginning with tuition at the institutional end and the usury-like burdens placed on loanees.

Pundits and politicians against it are shitty. Working class people against it are merely ignorant.

Nobody is suggesting debt cancellation as the only thing that needs to happen, but it's pretty much the only thing that can be done with a useless legislature. And there's no good reason not to do it.

[mj2sexay]

Lol, yeah no.

Working stiffs or people who paid their way through college shouldn't have to subsidize some losers useless degree.

A loan was taken out. Pay it back.

There absolutely is a cogent and righteous argument to be made on students being charged a juice rate that would make a loanshark blush, but outright cancellation is the most hamfisted solution possible (not to mention doesn't address the further issue of college tuition being out of control because colleges run their schools like drunken sailors).

[Johnny English]

Lol, yeah no.

Working stiffs or people who paid their way through college shouldn't have to subsidize some losers useless degree.

A loan was taken out. Pay it back.

There absolutely is a cogent and righteous argument to be made on students being charged a juice rate that would make a loanshark blush, but outright cancellation is the most hamfisted solution possible (not to mention doesn't address the further issue of college tuition being out of control because colleges run their schools like drunken sailors).

I'm a working stiff. I never went to university and I have paid a freak ton of tax over the years because I got lucky in my career, and I'm all in on student loan forgiveness (this isn't just a US issue). I will happily see my taxes go to ensure that kids coming out of university today do so unencumbered by the cost of their education.

[Gorilla]

I'm a working stiff. I never went to university and I have paid a freak ton of tax over the years because I got lucky in my career, and I'm all in on student loan forgiveness (this isn't just a US issue). I will happily see my taxes go to ensure that kids coming out of university today do so unencumbered by the cost of their education.

That's because you're an empathetic grown-up who actually cares about his fellow citizens, young people, and the future well-being of his country and humanity in general.
But JE, have you even considered HoW wIlL wE pAy 4 IITTT?? Let's pretend that's a real issue when it comes to things our particular propagandists tell us not to really care about.

[MBGreen]

Just get Elon Musk to pay for all the student debt.  Problem solved.