U.S. Politics

[delavan]

And then,   she wept...

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-apologizes-after-tearful-present-vote-on-israel-iron-dome-funding-bill/

[ons]

And then,   she wept...

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-apologizes-after-tearful-present-vote-on-israel-iron-dome-funding-bill/

And if she voted 'no' she'd be labeled an anti-semite for an inconsequential, symbolic show of resistance. The weight of AIPAC is absurd.

[delavan]

And if she voted 'no' she'd be labeled an anti-semite for an inconsequential, symbolic show of resistance. The weight of AIPAC is absurd.

She could've voted either way for all I care.  I was   (per the 'pregnant pause' spacing in my post)   remarking on the distraught damsel's tears - amusing 'optics' both literally and figuratively, i.e. boo-hoo meets haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBpm8tITIiE

[Badger]

 

[dcm1602]

Maybe there was concerns about the math the progressives were doing.

After all they have been proudly touting that the 3.5 trillion dollar bill will cost zero

[Badger]

Maybe there was concerns about the math the progressives were doing.

After all they have been proudly touting that the 3.5 trillion dollar bill will cost zero

Why are you so gullible

[dcm1602]

Why are you so gullible

Don't worry I didn't believe them.

[Badger]

Corporate dems are sabotaging legislation because they're paid to. This is an empirical fact. It's sad that you believe Joe Manchin when he says we can't afford things we desperately need to survive the century.

[dcm1602]

Corporate dems are sabotaging legislation because they're paid to. This is an empirical fact. It's sad that you believe Joe Manchin when he says we can't afford things we desperately need to survive the century.

But I'm gullible

[bojanglesman]

Neither bill will get passed anytime soon, if at all.  I holdout a tiny bit of confidence they will somehow manage to raise the debt ceiling.

I certainly feel that the first infrastructure bill needs to pass.  I think a large part of the reconciliation bill needs to be done.  I'm not a fan of free community college for all.  I think the other parts are way more important. 

I wish there was a way to do all this without massive wastage and stupid allocation of funds that comes along with government programs.  I especially expect extra retardation with the climate change part.  We desperately need to attack that problem, but we will just throw a bunch of cash at it and watch it end up in rich people's pockets.  The problem will be the execution, not the intention.

[CatoTheElder]

My office started planning for the shutdown this morning.

[Badger]

What a cool moderate guy, just crusading for fiscal responsibility

https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/1443304382322384898?s=19

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[Badger]

Neither bill will get passed anytime soon, if at all.  I holdout a tiny bit of confidence they will somehow manage to raise the debt ceiling.

I certainly feel that the first infrastructure bill needs to pass.  I think a large part of the reconciliation bill needs to be done.  I'm not a fan of free community college for all.  I think the other parts are way more important. 

I wish there was a way to do all this without massive wastage and stupid allocation of funds that comes along with government programs.  I especially expect extra retardation with the climate change part.  We desperately need to attack that problem, but we will just throw a bunch of cash at it and watch it end up in rich people's pockets.  The problem will be the execution, not the intention.

The two scumbags holding it up keep citing the price tag because being specific about which parts they'd cut would be politically unpopular. The infrastructure bill has already been hacked and slashed, Manchin lied and said he was on board with $4T, then changed his mind when $3.5T came anywhere close to passing. Focus needs to remain on who's freaking this up.

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[Badger]

My office started planning for the shutdown this morning.

Are you all essential personnel?

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[CatoTheElder]

Are you all essential personnel?

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Military, yes. The civilians in the building (my director included) are not. Looks like we're getting a CR to keep it funded as is through December, but good on them to wait until two days before a possible shutdown to have an organization wide discussion on any type of plan.