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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #6347 on: August 17, 2021, 03:33:44 PM »
A+ pandering

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« Reply #6348 on: August 18, 2021, 12:28:22 PM »
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Re: U.S. Politics
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« Reply #6350 on: August 18, 2021, 12:59:28 PM »
I'm hoping to have a zero day work week as soon as possible.

You and me both.

How many private businesses already try to demand weekends out of their employees? Where is this gonna go?

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« Reply #6352 on: August 18, 2021, 02:38:52 PM »
Magically saying the work week is 32 hours isn't going to make it happen.

This is something that would have to get phased in over like 10 years, and IMO is probably harder to make happen than Universal Healthcare.

Not to mention the optics of the biggest shortage of workers and suddenly you want to cut the supply or workers by presumably close to 20%

But to me this is pure political pandering on something that they know is 100% completely not feasible. And they just wanna fire up and excite all the kiddies who don't want to go to work
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« Reply #6353 on: August 18, 2021, 04:19:38 PM »
Magically saying the work week is 32 hours isn't going to make it happen.

This is something that would have to get phased in over like 10 years, and IMO is probably harder to make happen than Universal Healthcare.

Not to mention the optics of the biggest shortage of workers and suddenly you want to cut the supply or workers by presumably close to 20%

But to me this is pure political pandering on something that they know is 100% completely not feasible. And they just wanna fire up and excite all the kiddies who don't want to go to work
Keep it 40 hrs just four 10 hr days instead of five 8 hr days.  I've been doing it for 18 years.  I love having Mondays off.  Don't mind longer days.

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« Reply #6354 on: August 18, 2021, 04:54:35 PM »
Keep it 40 hrs just four 10 hr days instead of five 8 hr days.  I've been doing it for 18 years.  I love having Mondays off.  Don't mind longer days.

Again, what's going to stop, say a law firm from demanding five days a week.

As it stands, I'm working 50 hours a week (M-F 10/hrs a pop) and that's considered light.

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« Reply #6355 on: August 18, 2021, 05:07:25 PM »
Again, what's going to stop, say a law firm from demanding five days a week.

As it stands, I'm working 50 hours a week (M-F 10/hrs a pop) and that's considered light.
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« Reply #6356 on: August 18, 2021, 08:27:39 PM »
Keep it 40 hrs just four 10 hr days instead of five 8 hr days.  I've been doing it for 18 years.  I love having Mondays off.  Don't mind longer days.

I mean sure I suppose this is feasible

But do we really need the government to change the law to change the workweek to 4 10 hour shifts?

Not to mention I don't know if you've looked around the country.

But the amount of 400 pound fuckers out there, and people working older and older because they don't save for retirement. How many Americans are out there that would severely struggle to work 10 hour days from a physical perspective alone? 2 hours doesn't seem like much but that's a 25% increase

And of course childcare is another huge issue that would come along with this

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« Reply #6357 on: August 18, 2021, 08:40:10 PM »
This is actually one thing I don't feel should, or even can be, legislated.

Americans work too much, but simply decreasing the "standard" number of hours per week leaves more questions than it answers. How do you force employers to keep everyone at the same weekly income putting in fewer hours? What about non-salaried workers who rely on OT to get by?

I'm fully in favor of flexible schedules for business/positions where it's feasible. I can do the vast majority of my job at any time of day or night and while remote, I work all kinds of hours. But this is something that is up to the individual business.
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« Reply #6358 on: August 18, 2021, 09:04:25 PM »
This is actually one thing I don't feel should, or even can be, legislated.

Americans work too much, but simply decreasing the "standard" number of hours per week leaves more questions than it answers. How do you force employers to keep everyone at the same weekly income putting in fewer hours? What about non-salaried workers who rely on OT to get by?

I'm fully in favor of flexible schedules for business/positions where it's feasible. I can do the vast majority of my job at any time of day or night and while remote, I work all kinds of hours. But this is something that is up to the individual business.

 if anything they could slowly inch up the threshold of what constitutes overtime.

I mean right now the law states anything over 40 hours a week for not exempt employees is overtime.

You want to change how many hours a week the American works move the goalposts. Make it 36 hours a week then move it forward as needed.

Of course the obvious problem with this is employers will just make up this money elsewhere. And again still have the worker shortage so it's still not super feasible.

I still think the best way for the government to decrease the the work week in an indirect way, is simply universal Healthcare.

If people don't have to work 40 hours a week to get benefit I'd imagine you'd see a tremendous increase in part time and per diem employees

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Re: U.S. Politics
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