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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #5790 on: March 11, 2021, 09:41:45 PM »
If we incentived people to learn skills and education that society desperately needs both those individuals and society would benefit.

Incentivising people to do certain things and punishing people for doing other things are not the same thing.
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« Reply #5791 on: March 11, 2021, 10:44:24 PM »
Most other countries don't charge this much for an education and most major universities have consideral financial endowments that could easily cover students' tuitions.

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« Reply #5792 on: March 12, 2021, 01:00:56 AM »
Incentivising people to do certain things and punishing people for doing other things are not the same thing.

Having someone choose their own pathway to education and allowing them to take financial responsibility for that decision is punishment?

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« Reply #5793 on: March 12, 2021, 01:02:02 AM »
Most other countries don't charge this much for an education and most major universities have consideral financial endowments that could easily cover students' tuitions.



Many other countries send their children here to get educated

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« Reply #5794 on: March 12, 2021, 04:34:22 AM »
This is why you guys need more cops...to start shooting people not paying their student debts in a timely manner.
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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #5795 on: March 12, 2021, 06:20:20 AM »
If we incentived people to learn skills and education that society desperately needs both those individuals and society would benefit.
You can do that and cancel student debt but once again you're unable to hold two thoughts in your mind at the same time. Do one thing to fix past mistakes and do another to prevent future ones.

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« Reply #5796 on: March 12, 2021, 06:37:53 AM »
I'm pro-shooting people.
It solves alot of problems
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« Reply #5797 on: March 12, 2021, 10:14:21 AM »
It solves alot of problems
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« Reply #5798 on: March 12, 2021, 11:45:16 AM »
Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun
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« Reply #5799 on: March 12, 2021, 11:47:44 AM »
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« Reply #5800 on: March 12, 2021, 12:40:01 PM »
You can do that and cancel student debt but once again you're unable to hold two thoughts in your mind at the same time. Do one thing to fix past mistakes and do another to prevent future ones.

The mistake of people taking out loans they can't pay for, and the solution is to have other people pay for them?

Or as you say "doesn't cost anything"

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« Reply #5801 on: March 12, 2021, 01:28:16 PM »
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« Reply #5802 on: March 12, 2021, 03:08:08 PM »


The mistake of people taking out loans they can't pay for, and the solution is to have other people pay for them?

Or as you say "doesn't cost anything"

Yes, learn how federal spending works. Nobody else has to "pay for" federal student loan debt cancellation.

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« Reply #5803 on: March 12, 2021, 03:16:40 PM »

Yes, learn how federal spending works. Nobody else has to "pay for" federal student loan debt cancellation.

Are you familiar with how a loan works?

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« Reply #5804 on: March 12, 2021, 03:39:26 PM »

Yes, learn how federal spending works. Nobody else has to "pay for" federal student loan debt cancellation.

Maybe I'm too simple minded and indeed don't know how federal spending works, but if someone takes out a federal loan for X amount and then has it forgiven, then the federal government didn't get paid back the loan or any interest associated with it.  The federal government doesn't have to pay anything new, but it doesn't get paid what it should have.  The student received a service (an education), and didn't pay back the loan in full to do so.  The student was given an education paid for by whoever funds the government (the people). If you want to argue semantics about whether education should be free, whether someone got a degree that was overpriced, etc, that's a different discussion. 

In my little brain, not getting paid back for something is the same thing as having to pay for something.  The only difference is that you already paid for it instead of having to pay for it in the future.  In the end, said student didn't pay for a service they received, the taxpayer did.  Call it what you want.
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