U.S. Politics

[ons]

Couldn't help myself.

Anyway, as insane as Jewish space lasers are, I guess I don't find it as offensive as describing the systematic extermination of six million jews as calming

I mean, this is from an opinion piece published in JPost:
"But in this instance Tlaib didn’t say what they say she said. Although she is no Zionist, she acknowledged Jewish suffering and offered up a slice of understanding as to why Jews needed a homeland. It’s hardly a path to reconciliation, but it isn’t anti-Semitism either."

https://www.jpost.com/american-politics/what-did-rashida-tlaib-really-say-about-the-holocaust-589711

Her actual quote:
"Absolutely. Let me tell you — I mean, for me, I think two weeks ago we celebrated, or took a moment I think in our country to remember, the Holocaust. And there’s a kind of a calming feeling, I always tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust and the tragedy of the Holocaust in the fact that it was my ancestors — Palestinians — who lost their land and some lost their lives, their livelihood, their human dignity, their existence in many ways had been wiped out, and some people’s passports — I mean, just all of it was in the name of trying to create a safe haven for Jews, post-the Holocaust, post-the tragedy and the horrific persecution of Jews across the world at that time. And I love the fact that it was my ancestors that provided that, right?, in many ways. But they did it in a way that took their human dignity away, right, and it was forced on them."

Definitely feels like you're deliberately misunderstanding her to try and prove your brand of partisan rhetoric isn't as bad.

[mj2sexay]

I mean, this is from an opinion piece published in JPost:
"But in this instance Tlaib didn’t say what they say she said. Although she is no Zionist, she acknowledged Jewish suffering and offered up a slice of understanding as to why Jews needed a homeland. It’s hardly a path to reconciliation, but it isn’t anti-Semitism either."

https://www.jpost.com/american-politics/what-did-rashida-tlaib-really-say-about-the-holocaust-589711

Her actual quote:
"Absolutely. Let me tell you — I mean, for me, I think two weeks ago we celebrated, or took a moment I think in our country to remember, the Holocaust. And there’s a kind of a calming feeling, I always tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust and the tragedy of the Holocaust in the fact that it was my ancestors — Palestinians — who lost their land and some lost their lives, their livelihood, their human dignity, their existence in many ways had been wiped out, and some people’s passports — I mean, just all of it was in the name of trying to create a safe haven for Jews, post-the Holocaust, post-the tragedy and the horrific persecution of Jews across the world at that time. And I love the fact that it was my ancestors that provided that, right?, in many ways. But they did it in a way that took their human dignity away, right, and it was forced on them."

Definitely feels like you're deliberately misunderstanding her to try and prove your brand of partisan rhetoric isn't as bad.

Definitely feels like you're affording someone a level of nuance you otherwise wouldn't given the initial next to their name, but that's pretty much what you do.

That's without getting into how freaking unbelievably weird and inappropriate the comment still is, or Omar's dual loyalty or all about the benjamins bullshit.

[Jumbo]

I mean, this is from an opinion piece published in JPost:
"But in this instance Tlaib didn’t say what they say she said. Although she is no Zionist, she acknowledged Jewish suffering and offered up a slice of understanding as to why Jews needed a homeland. It’s hardly a path to reconciliation, but it isn’t anti-Semitism either."

https://www.jpost.com/american-politics/what-did-rashida-tlaib-really-say-about-the-holocaust-589711

Her actual quote:
"Absolutely. Let me tell you — I mean, for me, I think two weeks ago we celebrated, or took a moment I think in our country to remember, the Holocaust. And there’s a kind of a calming feeling, I always tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust and the tragedy of the Holocaust in the fact that it was my ancestors — Palestinians — who lost their land and some lost their lives, their livelihood, their human dignity, their existence in many ways had been wiped out, and some people’s passports — I mean, just all of it was in the name of trying to create a safe haven for Jews, post-the Holocaust, post-the tragedy and the horrific persecution of Jews across the world at that time. And I love the fact that it was my ancestors that provided that, right?, in many ways. But they did it in a way that took their human dignity away, right, and it was forced on them."

Definitely feels like you're deliberately misunderstanding her to try and prove your brand of partisan rhetoric isn't as bad.

There were good people on both sides of the Holocaust.

[Badger]

There were good people on both sides of the Holocaust.

-Steve King

[Badger]

Bad Nevada. Bad!

https://apnews.com/article/legislature-legislation-local-governments-nevada-economy-2fa79128a7bf41073c1e9102e8a0e5f0

Hopefully state legislature kills it and we get some reactions from idiots crying about how bibbity-thousand jerbs were stolen from them a la Amazon NYC.

[reuben]

Bad Nevada. Bad!

https://apnews.com/article/legislature-legislation-local-governments-nevada-economy-2fa79128a7bf41073c1e9102e8a0e5f0

Hopefully state legislature kills it and we get some reactions from idiots crying about how bibbity-thousand jerbs were stolen from them a la Amazon NYC.

Is there precedent for this?  The first thing that comes to mind is "Coal Mine Towns" but I didn't think the town was literally run by the company. 

[ons]

Definitely feels like you're affording someone a level of nuance you otherwise wouldn't given the initial next to their name, but that's pretty much what you do. 

There are other very strong reasons I am interested in whether things are actually anti-semitic, and you assuming otherwise is kind of fucked up.

There were good people on both sides of the Holocaust.

Cool.

[Badger]

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1357785974005256193?s=19

Manchin trying his hardest to sabotage midterm elections

[bojanglesman]

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1357785974005256193?s=19

Manchin trying his hardest to sabotage midterm elections

It's a tough one considering the wide variation of cost of living/salaries in the US.  You have to error on the side of giving some people a check that don't need it to avoid skipping people who happen to live in high cost of living areas and make a larger salary that doesn't go as far.

I think a reasonable compromise would be to lower the phaseout beginning point from 75K to maybe 65k or so,  but don't change where the phaseout ends.  Effectively doesn't change the number of people who get checks, but at least lowers the amount people with higher incomes get. 

There are still holes in it.  If it's based on 2019 income taxes, what about people who lost jobs since then and have little income. Someone who made 100K in a big city would get little if anything even though they made nothing this year because they got laid off.

Hopefully they allow these people to use their 2020 income taxes to base it on, even though they may have to wait a little longer until they file.

[delavan]

That's what I like about you though del, always willing to politely call me out on my excrement without resorting to ad hominem and viciousness.

Imho, disagreeing with someone doesn't make them evil or worthy of going off the deep end, especially when it comes to politics.  No reason why some self-absorbed politician or anyone's political philosophy should hold that much emotional sway over me when I have enough 'issues upstairs' as it is.

And this place is way way WAYYY too hung up on the shriveled up raisins of a pathetic, geriatric drunk.

You motherless, cock-sucking son of a bitch, who the fuck do you think you're kidding you fuck?!!  A 'raisin' is a dried-up grape.  Pelosi's octogenarian orbs are anything but.  They're luscious and succulent and you belong in a monastery. 

 

Assassination of Pelosi boobs is punishable by lethal injection.

Spot on bo.   Boob(s)...double lethal injection.

[bojanglesman]

Imho, disagreeing with someone doesn't make them evil or worthy of going off the deep end, especially when it comes to politics.  No reason why some self-absorbed politician or anyone's political philosophy should hold that much emotional sway over me when I have enough 'issues upstairs' as it is.

You motherless, cock-sucking son of a bitch, who the fuck do you think you're kidding you fuck?!!  A 'raisin' is a dried-up grape.  Pelosi's octogenarian orbs are anything but.  They're luscious and succulent and you belong in a monastery. 

 Spot on bo.   Boob(s)...double lethal injection.

Haha.  This guy....
I think we are pretty much in agreement that if you don't worship the wrinkly watermelons of Pelosi, you should be shot in the street.

[CatoTheElder]

 

[Johnny English]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-wright/texas-republican-first-in-u-s-congress-to-die-from-covid-19-idINKBN2A81WE

I don't know what a "constitutional conservative" is.

[Johnny English]

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/08/fetterman-senate-pennsylvania-466932

The depressing things is that you just know they're going to back some party loyalist against him in the primary. They'd honestly rather have a Republican they can publicly disagree with in the seat, than a progressive they can't.

[Badger]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-wright/texas-republican-first-in-u-s-congress-to-die-from-covid-19-idINKBN2A81WE

I don't know what a "constitutional conservative" is.

It's when you declare any attempt to use government to improve lives to be unconstitutional.