U.S. Politics

[IATA]

my concern would be if youre starting a social media type business and the government is both trying to say "you cant remove people" and "youre legally responsible for things people post", how do you reasonably manage those 2 opposing points? it seems a bit ridiculous, unless im just not understanding the 2 points of view correctly (which is possible, im a mess of a human).


trying not to be held responsible for others actions is what lead the the removable of parler from google, if google is going to be held responsible for content posted there. they still had their web platform, and for now at least, their apple platform. so they never were really "shutdown". they tried to loophole in that their ToS said they could remove content so that was good enough. google and apple are asking them to implement the policy and practice.
i dont agree either, i dont think it should have been removed so swiftly, it was pretty clearly a knee-jerk reaction to the happenings, they should have been given a reasonable timeline to get it out. but it is what it is.

in 2021, i dont think theres a way to have a social media platform and not police it. people abuse it and you have to protect yourself as a business. this is on them for thinking they could just do whatever they want with no repercussions. youve got to protect yourself.


the trump thing was because he was using it send out official items, and the courts said since he was using it that way, he couldnt block people from viewing the messages, was it not? again, not sure on legalities, but i cant imagine because he chose to use it as a government tool to discern his messages, that it means the company cant police their own platform.

[d sw0rdz]

the banning of content that is in any way/shape/form qanon related is a net plus for society, there is no debating this. free speech should not entail blindly accepting or allowing the propagation of blatantly illogical/untruthful/harmful propaganda by the many devious agents that have so successfully allowed for qanon filth to infiltrate our society today. it doesn't matter if he's the president; he can and should get banned just like everybody else. like badge said, regular people on twitter had suffered longer bans than he had prior to the permaban for less excrement than he had done

ill start complaining about the power they're wielding once they start to ban people from speaking outside of qanon - related cases and incidents, and it may honestly start to happen soon, but i see and have no issues whatsoever with any group or company seeing a need to stop the blatant lies and hysteria spready by qanon accomplices. this is not debatable for me. this country and our society is fvcked up, this has been made clearer than ever over the past several months and the past few days. this also is not a debate.

i'm honestly surprised these platforms have even decided to do this at this point, because it's all too little too late and the damage has been done already, and now the 'they're taking away our free speech!/they're trying to subdue us again!'/'they're trying to hide the truth!' cries have already become annoyingly unbearable

[Johnny English]

I can't get behind the free market/private business argument given Parler being throttled and then temporarily shut down yesterday.

Gotta say, I'm not there yet with Liawatha Liz in terms of breaking them up (just allow for actual competition with their own ToS instead of banding together to try to destroy any start up/alternative company that dares to hold people to the same standard instead of becoming the new frontier for controlled propaganda), but I'm more sympathetic to her on this issue then I ever thought I'd be.

I am 100% there, and I was before she made it a policy position. The US has a long and effective history of breaking up monopolistic positions at the right time - look at how they dealt with Ma Bell in the 80s - so quite why FAANG has been allowed to grow in such an unfettered fashion is beyond me, but it's way past time your government started wielding a very large antitrust stick in their direction and gave them the opportunity to divest or be dismantled.

As to your point on Parler, I'm not sure what your issue is there. It's not a free market argument - Google Play and the App Store both have clear rules about app content, they pull apps every day that provide or host content deemed to be contrary to their terms of service. Go onto the App Store and find something that serves content related to porn or radical Islam or any of a host of other things - it's not there. The only shame on this is that it took a bit too much sunlight for Parler to get pulled.

[CatoTheElder]

One of these days MB is going to have to explain how he managed to program a random /pol/ talking point/slang generator that only barely fails the Turing Test into the board's UI.

[Badger]

I can't tell whats the more unintentionally funny part of this thread, the game of who the worst MSNBC host is, the MULTIPLE stacy abrams avi's or sigs (LMAO) or supposed liberals/leftists simping for big daddy tech to have the type of control over our process that they bitched about when calling Citizens United the "death knell of democracy" or some such bullshit.

Ok. Nationalize Twitter then.

[Badger]

 

[MBGreen]

[Badger]

As a recent BotW beginner this made me lol

https://twitter.com/30SECVlDEOS/status/1347938551267274756?s=19

[bojanglesman]

What is botW?

[CatoTheElder]

What is botW?

Zelda: Breath of the Wild

[bojanglesman]

Zelda: Breath of the Wild

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[Badger]

In the game, your character has a little stamina wheel that shows how much longer he can exert himself, if you run out of stamina while climbing you fall.

[CatoTheElder]

..

The audio and the little circle in the middle of the top of the screen and the death screen at the end are from the game.

[CatoTheElder]

Hm....

[CatoTheElder]

Is this too subtle for the FBI?