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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #4020 on: June 03, 2020, 08:18:45 PM »
Even the current narrow window still needs to show a demonstrable left/liberal divide.

100% agree. There’s currently a lot of idealogical split on the left imo. Conservatives see eye to eye on main platform topics from what I’ve seen.

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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #4021 on: June 03, 2020, 08:35:59 PM »
No they're not. Not in the least. That actually was my argument. The proportionality of partisanism is way off.

Neither you nor Badger has a legitimate view on this given your respective locations on the scale. He thinks you're Genghis Khan and you think he's Karl Marx.
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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #4022 on: June 03, 2020, 08:36:24 PM »
Conservatives see eye to eye on main platform topics from what I’ve seen.

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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #4023 on: June 03, 2020, 09:04:19 PM »
Neither you nor Badger has a legitimate view on this given your respective locations on the scale. He thinks you're Genghis Khan and you think he's Karl Marx.

Actually, insane as Badg's positions as I sometimes find, his ability to be remarkably consistent in it and recognize the anti-Drumpf grift even if he hates the Orange Man is something I've always respected.

I'll never hate on intellectual consistency.

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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #4024 on: June 03, 2020, 09:09:13 PM »
Actually, insane as Badg's positions as I sometimes find, his ability to be remarkably consistent in it and recognize the anti-Drumpf grift even if he hates the Orange Man is something I've always respected.

I'll never hate on intellectual consistency.

I respect both of your positions (with reservations) and your ability to argue them, even though I disagree with both to varying degrees.

The point is that both of you are statistical outliers when it comes to judging political spectrum and therefore both have skewed views. I'm sure you think that the NYT is pretty left wing, just as I'm sure Badger decries it for being not even remotely left wing. The graph has it about right.
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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #4025 on: June 03, 2020, 09:37:45 PM »

I think I'll do what all the cool kids are doing in relation to this graph and pull out an Alan Moore quote, "Who Watches The Watchmen."

You can yourself! https://www.adfontesmedia.com/white-paper-multi-analyst-ratings-project-august-2019/?v=402f03a963ba
They have a lot of information about their ongoing attempts at objectivity and transparency throughout their website, along with an updated chart.

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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #4026 on: June 03, 2020, 11:57:35 PM »
I take issue with the chart's use of "partisan" and with its description of the orange boxes.

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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #4027 on: June 04, 2020, 12:03:17 AM »
DailyKos literally banned criticism of Hillary from their site in 2016 yet they're further left than DemocracyNow?

Patribotics, a blog containing the incoherent ramblings of an insane woman (who happens to be a former Conservative member of UK Parliament) is somehow further left than two openly socialist publications?

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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #4028 on: June 04, 2020, 12:33:34 AM »
if there was a gay column on that chart, this board would be at the very top. we've had some gay derriere threads/arguments/conversations this offseason

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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #4029 on: June 04, 2020, 11:19:18 AM »
DailyKos literally banned criticism of Hillary from their site in 2016 yet they're further left than DemocracyNow?

Patribotics, a blog containing the incoherent ramblings of an insane woman (who happens to be a former Conservative member of UK Parliament) is somehow further left than two openly socialist publications?

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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #4030 on: June 04, 2020, 11:21:51 AM »
if there was a gay column on that chart, this board would be at the very top. we've had some gay derriere threads/arguments/conversations this offseason

Isn’t that the WWE thread?
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« Reply #4031 on: June 04, 2020, 02:43:30 PM »
I haven't read the report yet so without the context for the deaths I'm not sure what to make of this story, but it does seem rather alarming.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/united-states-added-list-most-dangerous-countries-journalists-first-time-n949676
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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #4032 on: June 04, 2020, 02:46:05 PM »
I haven't read the report yet so without the context for the deaths I'm not sure what to make of this story, but it does seem rather alarming.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/united-states-added-list-most-dangerous-countries-journalists-first-time-n949676

Combining the attitude of the Trump administration towards the press and the live action shots of journalists being pepper sprayed and arrested during the protests, this isn’t altogether surprising.
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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #4033 on: June 04, 2020, 03:13:22 PM »
I haven't read the report yet so without the context for the deaths I'm not sure what to make of this story, but it does seem rather alarming.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/united-states-added-list-most-dangerous-countries-journalists-first-time-n949676

63?!  What the freak happened in 2018, I can't even remember that far back.  Australian wildfires seem like a decade ago. 

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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #4034 on: June 04, 2020, 03:19:33 PM »
It seems incorrect to lump journalist assassinations from heads of state in with good old fashioned American bullet blizzards

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