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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #3106 on: January 25, 2018, 01:28:47 PM »
I understand where you are coming from, but the problem is Trump, not Schumer.  They had bipartisan deals twice that included CHIP, DACA and funding for the wall.  Both were approved by Trump until he folded to the extreme right.

The shutdown happened because 4 republicans voted no.  Schumer got what he could out of it.  The biggest problem is the democrats were lazy with their messaging.  They let Trump, Pence and Turtle get away with bold faced lies.

It's not lazy. The Democrats have no clue how to push a message. It's been that way for a long time now. Like them or not, people like Booker or Gillenbrand are great at pushing their message. But the party's voices are Pelosi and Schumer.

Cuomo gets one right.

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-signs-executive-order-protect-and-strengthen-net-neutrality-new-york

Eh. It doesn't do much. It just means if a Verizon doesn't outwardly "adhere" to net neutrality principles, government agencies within the state shouldn't enter into contracts with them. It's certainly a step, but it offers zero protections to consumers.
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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #3107 on: January 28, 2018, 06:42:13 PM »
Interested to hear thoughts on this:

https://www.axios.com/trump-team-debates-nationalizing-5g-network-f1e92a49-60f2-4e3e-acd4-f3eb03d910ff.html

Please no hurr durr Trump, just thoughts on a government built vs privately built 5G network.

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« Reply #3108 on: January 28, 2018, 06:45:28 PM »
Interested to hear thoughts on this:

https://www.axios.com/trump-team-debates-nationalizing-5g-network-f1e92a49-60f2-4e3e-acd4-f3eb03d910ff.html

Please no hurr durr Trump, just thoughts on a government built vs privately built 5G network.

State owned transmission media? LOL. How do we go from handing control of internet throughput to private enterprise to hardcore socialism in one leap?

It's almost like this administration doesn't have the first freaking clue what it's doing......
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« Reply #3109 on: January 28, 2018, 11:36:13 PM »
State owned transmission media? LOL. How do we go from handing control of internet throughput to private enterprise to hardcore socialism in one leap?

It's almost like this administration doesn't have the first freaking clue what it's doing......

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« Reply #3110 on: January 29, 2018, 02:55:12 AM »
You don't say
Yeah, I thought thought that was a given at this point.

"I'm going hire the best people,"

Proceeds to hire the worst possible person for every cabinet position.

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« Reply #3111 on: January 29, 2018, 09:52:57 AM »
Yeah, I thought thought that was a given at this point.

"I'm going hire the best people,"

Proceeds to hire the worst possible person for every cabinet position.

Trump: So you deny global warming and CO2 buildup despite a plethora of evidence to support it? You don't think oil and coal pollute the environment and don't care if companies create super fund sites if they're profitable? You will give the coal and oil companies whatever they require You think the US should say freak the rest of the world and get out of the Kyoto Accord and flip them the bird over the Paris Agreement? Even though the US could and should be the world leader in green energy, freak it lets go back to the Industrial Revolution era fossil fuel, right?  So in no uncertain terms you have complete disdain for clean water and clean environment ad the people that want it?

S.Pruitt: Yes, that sums it up 100% accurately.

Trump: You're hired, I have the perfect spot for you as head of the Environmental Protection Agency!

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Trump: So you're against free and open internet? You don't give a excrement about 85% of the public wanting unfettered access to the internet? You're for the big service providers to do whatever they want, whenever they want and freak the public? You will do whatever you can, dishonest and all, to repeal Net Neutrality? Cable Providers can have the same broad powers as well, as long as they make money they can offer the public 1 channel for all you care?

Ajit Douchebag: Yes, absolutely, I will repeal Net Neutrality faster than you can unzip your fly when Ivanka's horny.

Trump: You're hired, head of the FCC.

You can do this very same exercise with probably a dozen more agencies.
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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #3112 on: January 29, 2018, 10:16:44 AM »
Well so much for the no hurr durr part. 

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« Reply #3113 on: January 29, 2018, 10:36:45 AM »
Well so much for the no hurr durr part. 

"Please give your views on this thing that the Trump administration is thinking of doing without expressing any views on the Trump administration" is a dumb ask in the first place. The answer is that it's an incredibly stupid idea for the government to build, own and control the network. I don't even know why it's a discussion.
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« Reply #3114 on: January 29, 2018, 10:43:45 AM »
Well so much for the no hurr durr part. 

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« Reply #3115 on: January 29, 2018, 10:49:03 AM »
"Please give your views on this thing that the Trump administration is thinking of doing without expressing any views on the Trump administration" is a dumb ask in the first place. The answer is that it's an incredibly stupid idea for the government to build, own and control the network. I don't even know why it's a discussion.

He's (Bo) a jackass don't even bother.
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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #3116 on: January 30, 2018, 05:17:46 PM »
Trump: So you deny global warming and CO2 buildup despite a plethora of evidence to support it? You don't think oil and coal pollute the environment and don't care if companies create super fund sites if they're profitable? You will give the coal and oil companies whatever they require You think the US should say freak the rest of the world and get out of the Kyoto Accord and flip them the bird over the Paris Agreement? Even though the US could and should be the world leader in green energy, freak it lets go back to the Industrial Revolution era fossil fuel, right?  So in no uncertain terms you have complete disdain for clean water and clean environment ad the people that want it?

S.Pruitt: Yes, that sums it up 100% accurately.

Trump: You're hired, I have the perfect spot for you as head of the Environmental Protection Agency!

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Trump: So you're against free and open internet? You don't give a excrement about 85% of the public wanting unfettered access to the internet? You're for the big service providers to do whatever they want, whenever they want and freak the public? You will do whatever you can, dishonest and all, to repeal Net Neutrality? Cable Providers can have the same broad powers as well, as long as they make money they can offer the public 1 channel for all you care?

Ajit Douchebag: Yes, absolutely, I will repeal Net Neutrality faster than you can unzip your fly when Ivanka's horny.

Trump: You're hired, head of the FCC.

You can do this very same exercise with probably a dozen more agencies.
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« Reply #3117 on: January 31, 2018, 07:21:42 AM »
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